moving back to nz

[winfieldsaregoo]

so im moving back to new zealand and im just wondering what would be the best isp deal i could get. My house is in a small shit hole called edendale so i dont know if i can get adsl2+ or what the go is.

[ArtanisNZ]

looking at the maps for adsl coverage your pretty much boned if your going to edendale in the south, your best bet is to pick and isp and ask who's got what where as its changing just about every week these days.

[winfieldsaregoo]

well ive looked at snap but there caps are crap or the price and i dont know what vodaphone is like in nz but its arse in aus.

oh i put in my adress on there websites and thay say i can get it but i dont trust it as ive looked at othere sites and thay say i cant .

[mycoolcar]

I am with snap as their price to cap ratio is pretty good imo.

Happy with service, speed and price.

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

I am with orcon as their price to cap ratio is pretty good imo.

Happy with service, speed and price.

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

well ive looked at snap but there caps are crap

Nice rhymes.

[Codex]

Snap or bust

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

well ive looked at snap but there caps are crap for the price

300GB for $95 is not crap.

[winfieldsaregoo]

well on there website thay only have like 50gb a month in the packages

[Growler]

put in your address etc too. I am on snap. $100/mth 250GB & phone. Uncapped nights between 1-7am. I never hit cap.

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

well on there website thay only have like 50gb a month in the packages

That is the base package. (i.e $75 for NDSL for 50GB)

Then you choose your data pack on top of that. (i.e $20 for 250GB)

[Nostargate]

Chorus's map is usually pretty accurate for coverage.

moving back to nz

[Catalyst]

snap ftw, $105 for 500gb

[Speakman]

winfield, chuck me a PM with your address and email address, and I'll flick you an email tonight with pricings (work for snap)

[mycoolcar]

GetSome has a snap cartel running.

[winfieldsaregoo]

thanks guys. Well snap needs to change the way thay convey there data caps on there website because it dose'nt show the increase options on the site when yo click on it.

[simcore]

/me changes sponsor in top right of website to Snap

[winfieldsaregoo]

call it on snap

[Lias]

I'm sure the gaming community appreciates TCL's sponsorship Byron, I know I do, but we don't have blind loyalty to the brand just because they give us nice things. If TCL want's us to be able to recommend them as the best ISP in NZ, they need to start acting like they are the best ISP in NZ.

It's hard to keep recommending them when:

A: No large/unlimited data plans. Fast is good, but not when you have horribly low caps.. 150gb/month on a 100mb connection is just outright pathetic. Warpspeed plans should be like 500/month and unlimited at the current price points for 100/150. Not to mention HORRIBLY pricy data overages, no data rollover, etc.
B: TCL is consistently one of the last players in the market to drop pricing, and plan changes happen at glacial speeds.
C: You just got brought out by Vodafone, who are quite possibly the shittiest, most customer unfriendly ISP in NZ.  They are also one of the few ISP's who are rated worse than TCL for performance by Truenet.. buy more bandwidth, and lower contention ratios, it's not rocket science!
D: Telecom are doing it better than you.. TELECOM FFS.. I should never be able to recommend Telecom to people, yet I can. Truenet has consistently shown TCL DSL plans as being amongst the worst in the country lately, and Telecom amongst the best. That's just fucking terrible.
E: No VDSL plans (see also previous comments about large/unlimited plans)
F: No UFB plans (see also previous comments about large/unlimited plans)

Gamers tend to want shiny new tech like VDSL and UFB, and to consume larger than average amounts of data whilst still requiring best of breed performance and stability. TCL cannot currently offer ANY of those things.

[Xenolightning]

In concur Lisa

[Lias]

http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/telecom-reports-line-profit-result-ck-136294

"Heavy price competition is hurting returns, but we're determined to meet the competition on price," Mr Moutter said on a conference call.

Telecom are currently a much better ISP because they are ensuring they are competitive, even at the (no doubt painful) cost of lower margin's than they would like. It would seem like TCL has no desire to be competitive. The price drop Simcore recently got me was great, and I appreciate it, but even with that price drop I could have 500gb/month with Telecom instead of 150gb with TCL, and pay even less.

[Codex]

You'd still go with telecom even though they route their traffic like crap? Wow. I'd go with tcl and take the cap hit before going with telecom, that's for sure, the shitty routing and bad net experience just isn't worth it.

[Lias]

I _am_ with TCL :-) Mostly because of cable thou.. If I were on DSL I wouldn't be.

And yes Telecom may not be perfect, but they have unfortunately gotten a lot better in the last few years, and for most people routing isn't a real issue. But if you want to get technical TCL's routing is shitty too because they refuse to peer with NZIX, just like Telecom.

I don't want to recommend Telecom over TCL, but I will and do to most people because TCL just refuses to be competitive. I swear to god sometimes I think management there wants to run their company into the ground.

[Pyromanik]

Snap or bust

If you can get cable (and can pay for it) then get cable. Other wise ^

[simcore]

I'm sure the gaming community appreciates TCL's sponsorship Byron, I know I do, but we don't have blind loyalty to the brand just because they give us nice things. If TCL want's us to be able to recommend them as the best ISP in NZ, they need to start acting like they are the best ISP in NZ.

It's hard to keep recommending them when:

A: No large/unlimited data plans. Fast is good, but not when you have horribly low caps.. 150gb/month on a 100mb connection is just outright pathetic. Warpspeed plans should be like 500/month and unlimited at the current price points for 100/150. Not to mention HORRIBLY pricy data overages, no data rollover, etc.
B: TCL is consistently one of the last players in the market to drop pricing, and plan changes happen at glacial speeds.
C: You just got brought out by Vodafone, who are quite possibly the $#@!tiest, most customer unfriendly ISP in NZ.  They are also one of the few ISP's who are rated worse than TCL for performance by Truenet.. buy more bandwidth, and lower contention ratios, it's not rocket science!
D: Telecom are doing it better than you.. TELECOM FFS.. I should never be able to recommend Telecom to people, yet I can. Truenet has consistently shown TCL DSL plans as being amongst the worst in the country lately, and Telecom amongst the best. That's just $#@!ing terrible.
E: No VDSL plans (see also previous comments about large/unlimited plans)
F: No UFB plans (see also previous comments about large/unlimited plans)

Gamers tend to want shiny new tech like VDSL and UFB, and to consume larger than average amounts of data whilst still requiring best of breed performance and stability. TCL cannot currently offer ANY of those things.

 
Thanks for the extensive feedback Lias, appreciate it.

Working on many things that I hope will result in us being able to continue to secure you and others as customers, and ideally have you all feeling that we're service that you can recommend strongly.

Cheers!