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Games => First-Person Shooter => Battlefield => Topic started by: hawkwindnz on June 11, 2013, 01:41:48 pm
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Sort of a bit scripted, but I actually thought it was amazing!
http://youtu.be/3nJY7n8KaOY
http://youtu.be/3nJY7n8KaOY
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Looks exactly the same. which is to be expected...
Commander mode via tablet is hilarious and I wonder how many patches there will need to be before the tower actually collapses...
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^^ That's what I thought about the tower collapse.
Maybe commander tablet mode was just for the demo, so the guy introducing all the shit could feel involved. I also wonder if the game has voip, you would expect so given there is commander.
I liked how the tank got trapped in the lower levels area, but if it doesnt get blown up, can it drive around down there? Its sort of like they bought back the destroy-able bridges from bf2, can engineers deploy a temporary bridge to span the gap? That could be cool.
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That looks incredible, wasn't impressed by SP but this looks like a much more fun BF3.
Also recon with c4..deadly bush wookies now
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I would like to see a less scripted demo - with 2 teams actually playing each other.
I mean it looked nice - but as a view of Multiplayer it felt 'Sterile' not Organic in the way that actual multiplayer is.
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a lift that works...get those claymores & c4 ready lol
chopper rape with those buildings to cover epic
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a lift that works...get those claymores & c4 ready lol
I did love the Elevator music though - that would be hilarious in the middle of a Scrim....
'do do dododo do do'
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commander mode trailer http://youtu.be/3nJY7n8KaOY SS of layout screen http://i.imgur.com/BnslRVD.jpg
and another singleplayer vid. http://youtu.be/wBSbxjkLXuU
I wasn't going to bother buying it, but certainly am now! Heaps of info on the reddit bf4 page http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/
Dropping that tank from the road into the basement was almost dick out material....
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A couple of things I noticed from the multiplayer video
5 man squads!
Voip
More team play points
Didn't see anything about squad leader spawn.
Destructible Roads
Lack of Blue Tint
And many more just can't remember right now
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Commander assets are tied to flags, so you have to cap certain flags to be able to use UAV, Missile Strike and Gunship.
Anyone know what the EMP does? Knocks out other commanders assets or possibly vehicles in the field?
Also there is a "live feed" on the commander screenshot (bottom left), is this a live feed of the SL the commander has selected?
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If it's anything like 2142, it will knock out vehicles.
That looks pretty good imo, a step in the right direction.
Apparently they might be bringing back full magazine reload as well.
(http://i.imgur.com/ZADd5ot.png)
Also VOIP confirmed?: http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/comments/1g400z/ingame_voip_on_pc_has_not_been_confirmed_so/cagk1yf
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If it's anything like 2142, it will knock out vehicles.
That looks pretty good imo, a step in the right direction.
Apparently they might be bringing back full magazine reload as well.
([url]http://i.imgur.com/ZADd5ot.png[/url])
Also VOIP confirmed?: [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_4/comments/1g400z/ingame_voip_on_pc_has_not_been_confirmed_so/cagk1yf[/url]
I have a love/hate relationship with full magazine reloads - I love them for the realism, but I hate them for the realism.....
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I've been watching a wee bit of a stream for BF4.
It looks as though swimming is way faster which I'll gladly accept and you can shoot your pistol too which I'm not sure about...
When you are about to get knifed it comes up with a "counter attack" option. I'm pretty sure you need to press F and it looks to be a pretty small window of time to do this in. (I'll be changing that to my side mouse button tbh)
Spectator mode looks really awesome which is good news for future streaming of matches. Several different view modes available. Honestly it looks amazing. (it's just sad that I'm so excited about something that was already in BF2)
Tower falling down looks to be a scripted event
I'm starting to think that they left all these things out of BF3 on purpose so they would have more of a selling point for BF4...
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I'm starting to think that they left all these things out of BF3 on purpose so they would have more of a selling point for BF4...
It does appear that they have taken onboard alot of what has been said lacked in Beef3.
Potentially this could be BF2 on steroids with better graphics and destruction, that IS something to be very excited about.
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Ok so that trailer looks fucking cool.
Not going to rush out and preorder but I am now looking forward to it releasing and seeing my mate who will without a doubt have it on release day play it.
Might just tweak the rig so it is ready tho :friendly_wink:
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going to be epic if voip is back in and as good as BF2's system, BF3 would have been so much better with it built in
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lots of eye candy 'wow factor' but WTF is with a chopper hovering at the top of a skyscraper and not laying waste to the whole level in seconds ?
people will soon learn where not to park vehicles if the roads are that fragile ;)
the camping is going to get fierce when a strong team gives there commander extra assets like Spooky AC-130s
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lots of eye candy 'wow factor' but WTF is with a chopper hovering at the top of a skyscraper and not laying waste to the whole level in seconds ? people will soon learn where not to park vehicles if the roads are that fragile ;)
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Tbh I think they got the engine right in BF3, which has allowed them to this time work on gameplay.
And I don't really care that its worked like that.
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Another trailer has surfaced - Great Wall of China conquest assault map.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itbq_JG5PyU&feature=youtu.be
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itbq_JG5PyU&feature=youtu.be)
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Another trailer has surfaced - Great Wall of China conquest assault map.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itbq_JG5PyU&feature=youtu.be[/url]
([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itbq_JG5PyU&feature=youtu.be[/url])
you are such a tool MCC XD... did you get weird looks recording that? :P
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Fuck! New guns an snuff.
small hands thou... 8=3
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you are such a tool MCC XD... did you get weird looks recording that? :P
They gave my tool a weird look, apparently its not normal to get it out on the great wall.
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Another trailer has surfaced - Great Wall of China conquest assault map.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itbq_JG5PyU&feature=youtu.be[/url]
([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itbq_JG5PyU&feature=youtu.be[/url])
i thought they were going to fix suppression - doesnt look like it from that video - weapons bouncing around, no wonder the player couldnt hit anything
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going to be epic if voip is back in and as good as BF2's system, BF3 would have been so much better with it built in
When it comes to the social side, in game voip would have beaten battlelog's attempt anyday, kind of funny in a sad way... argh!@#:upset:
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http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/news/view/2925730256710580383/
Spectator mode, things are starting to get better, especially for ladder play
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Was watching the E3 stream, the spec mode looks very cool. Some nice features.
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http://www.gameinformer.com/games/battlefield_4/b/pc/archive/2013/06/12/everything-we-know-about-battlefield-4-multiplayer.aspx
More info on BF4
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[url]http://www.gameinformer.com/games/battlefield_4/b/pc/archive/2013/06/12/everything-we-know-about-battlefield-4-multiplayer.aspx[/url]
More info on BF4
Damn if that list hasn't got my finger hovering over the pre-order button.....
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Espeeeeecially "Rather than build its own battle recorder, however, DICE plans to use the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 recorders."
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When it comes to the social side, in game voip would have beaten battlelog's attempt anyday, kind of funny in a sad way... argh!@#:upset:
It's a pity they didn't get battlelog to auto-join a group with your squad mates so voip could be done easily
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are we still having to use that Origin shit ?
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Highly likely it will, no mention of a server browser ingame yet
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I'm still waiting to preorder... They still have plenty of time to fuck the game up.
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http://www.battlefield.com/battlefield-4/e3-live-stream?websso=1
Live stream spec switching between the players in a 64p match, build is pre alpha
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Spectator Mode is super awesome. Movie time with popcorn!
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The bridge gates will be spammed a lot in Shanghai. Something I reckon should be taken out.
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Highly likely it will, no mention of a server browser ingame yet
imo battlelog is far superior to any ingame browser, and far more upgradable. I don't miss the old browser at all. Something that EA did right, fair play to them.
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imo battlelog is far superior to any ingame browser, and far more upgradable. I don't miss the old browser at all. Something that EA did right, fair play to them.
Except for the fact it has huge issues finding local servers unless you knew the exact name of them. Try typing AU or NZ into it and see how few turn up vs the ones listed on gametracker etc
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Except for the fact it has huge issues finding local servers unless you knew the exact name of them. Try typing AU or NZ into it and see how few turn up vs the ones listed on gametracker etc
I find myself Agreeing with Mattnz - Battlelog (for all its break from tradition and not being ingame) is quite good. Especially when you use the BetterBattleLog mod.
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Lol, Its good when you use a mod to fix all the bits that are bad.
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Inb4 BF4 didn't meet my expectations, EA screwed us over.... Punk buster...Origin....shit....not working....not worth it.
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Except for the fact it has huge issues finding local servers unless you knew the exact name of them. Try typing AU or NZ into it and see how few turn up vs the ones listed on gametracker etc
There's a region filter didyakno?
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There's a region filter didyakno?
No shit.
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The bright green and blue name tags above your teammates seem to do a good job of killing the immersion, were they there in BF3?
Watching some MP gameplay footage, at any given time your screen is covered in green and blue icons everywhere :/
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a few days old, some commander wannabes might still find this interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJwmN-eMk7U
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That actually looks fairly promising.
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The bright green and blue name tags above your teammates seem to do a good job of killing the immersion, were they there in BF3?
Watching some MP gameplay footage, at any given time your screen is covered in green and blue icons everywhere :/
Not sure what vids you are referring to, but maybe you were seeing spec mode view?
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Watched that commander video, learnt that main gun ammo in tanks is back, so presumably its back for other vehicles too.
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Watched that commander video, learnt that main gun ammo in tanks is back, so presumably its back for other vehicles too.
So no more infinite Jet rape :(
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Not sure what vids you are referring to, but maybe you were seeing spec mode view?
Hmm not sure, thought it was just first-person gameplay, but it could be spec mode? This kind of thing:
(http://iforce.co.nz/i/wtk3xqkt.jbe.png)
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^ Thats pretty standard. It's like that in BF3.
Friendlies far away show up as a triangle, close to you they have a name tag, vehicles show up as a icon of the vehicle.
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A wee bit of info on vehicle customizations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=a8Si9hWhGGc#!
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Liking the changes to vehicles so far, I wonder though does that mean the driver selects what his gunner has as weapons?
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No. You select your own, they are then on when you are in the vehicle.
Same as currently with attack choppers.
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I just want to be able to drop the entire HUD by default. BF3 was so much cooler with ZERO HUD on screen. Could actually see what was around me and not just a million trillion little bright blue and red markers.
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No shit.
Well then I don't know what you're complaining about. It does a decent job, certainly at least equal to the previous terrible ingame browser. And if they want to improve it, they don't have to patch the entire game.
I want a tank with bright pink paint.
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hmmm from that MP vid it sounds like armor is going to be more difficult to control....50 ton MBT halted by a stop sign anyone ? hopefully we will get selectable main gun ammo again, not much use for APFDS rounds in a city map
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The video lyesalot posted shows they have selectable main gun ammo.
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Well then I don't know what you're complaining about. It does a decent job, certainly at least equal to the previous terrible ingame browser. And if they want to improve it, they don't have to patch the entire game.
I want a tank with bright pink paint.
Mine only finds 1/5th of all nz/aus servers a any given time, it's terrible. Unless you specifically search for the name you are after or join off a friend in the same game it's harder than it needs to be
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Check and refresh origin. The alpha invites went out yesterday, and if you are in, it will be sitting in your origin games folder
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Saw your message and given I've done nearly 630 hours of bf3, and am a pro, I might just get an invite.
Sadly I didn't :(
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Work on that pro part and maybe you will get in with the next wave of invites
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Thanks for the encouragement. Did you get an invite?
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It's for people who wasted money on MoH isn't it?
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Nope, was random. You had to have the box ticked in origin to receive news about bf3 from EA. Sounds like a proper test too. No textures or anything, more of a server stress test, and bug fix.
Will have to wait for the demo (beta) which will have plenty of bugs that DICE are told about, but won't be fixed anyway on release.
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It's for people who wasted money on MoH isn't it?
Thats early Beta access - not the Alpha I think
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[ATTACH=CONFIG]7925[/ATTACH]got an invite for the Alpha but never got the download in origin ... epic way to start EA
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Jellay
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A wee video on the frostbite engine. The waves impressed me the most!
[video=youtube;R9yVV6g3q7g#at=181]R9yVV6g3q7g#at=181
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Bugger waves and wind. (though they are pretty) The clunky movement feel still irks me, and i reckon they need to focus more on fixing that.
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had a round last night loving it so far roll on final game .
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i only noticed it when i watched it this time but the 1942 theme music plays in the background as the end sequence starts
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They should add more than one destruction animation for vehicles and buildings. e.g. killing a chopper in bf3 it always breaks apart in a similar way, make it so the destruction reflects the way it was destroyed.
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Thank fuck support is the only class that can suppress in BF4
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It's a wee bit old but it gives a lot of good information that some might not have heard/seen. (hopefully not repeated info)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7YfQPuom4qk#at=62
Suppression is now more focused around the support class.
You can bring up bollards that block streets. Player has to get out of the vehicle to put it down (if approaching it from the red side)
Can currently only counter knife attacks from the front.
Metal detectors will go off if you go through it. Did that happen in metro at all? I can't remember.... I usually avoid metro as much as possible...
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Suppression is now more focused around the support class.
Great - More people going as support and lieing in doorways and blocking everyone
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Tablet Commander Mode is a cool idea but will suck in practice. Look forward to a bunch of commanders not communicating at all with their team.
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Tablet Commander Mode is a cool idea but will suck in practice. Look forward to a bunch of commanders not communicating at all with their team.
Hmmm why do you say that, tablets have voice and speakers... I see no reason why they could not be able to communicate.
Although the whole idea is pretty fucking cool, I do agree in practice it is going to suck
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I thought you could use a PC or a tablet? EDIT: Just checked and you can, but on a PC you can also watch feeds from your soldiers.
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If you have a spare 40mins here some semi-decent and raw footage of some gameplay @ E3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqJfCPcu0As
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If you have a spare 40mins here some semi-decent and raw footage of some gameplay @ E3
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqJfCPcu0As[/url]
Definately using proper reloads with clips
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If you have a spare 40mins here some semi-decent and raw footage of some gameplay @ E3
AHahha. hahahah. hahahah.
Spare 40 mins. Good joke.
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AHahha. hahahah. hahahah.
Spare 40 mins. Good joke.
Would you like one of mine? I have lots of spare 40mins at the moment.
I like the bit where he knifes a dude in the water.
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Definately using proper reloads with clips
Apparently it is with some weapons, and not with others. It may not be decided yet, but it would be a good way to nerf assault and auto-snipers.
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Apparently it is with some weapons, and not with others. It may not be decided yet, but it would be a good way to nerf assault and auto-snipers.
Semi auto sniper rifles need nerfing? (I say this as someone who doesn't play Hardcore regularly)
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If you have a spare 40mins here some semi-decent and raw footage of some gameplay @ E3
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqJfCPcu0As[/url]
Motherofgod, flashbangs, soooo much griefing fun in BF2:SF with those...
Other things of note; C4 slides along ground? Gone are the days of C4-chucking, hellllooowwwwwww ten-pin c4'ing.
Noob tube AND medpacks, metro will be even more horrid for TDL.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB3LFY1sp8Q
so does this mean that those of us with two screens will effectively be able to do the same thing without a tablet?
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[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB3LFY1sp8Q[/url]
so does this mean that those of us with two screens will effectively be able to do the same thing without a tablet?
Your input devices (keyboard/mouse) are locked into the game while its running in full-screen, so you'd have to alt-tab out of the game anyway (which means you could do the same thing with just 1 screen).
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So the new battlelog is pretty much the steam overlay, but on a different device.
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Your input devices (keyboard/mouse) are locked into the game while its running in full-screen, so you'd have to alt-tab out of the game anyway (which means you could do the same thing with just 1 screen).
Not if your running full screen window mode.
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That locator of other players could lead to some rl shit......knock knock......hey bitch, you just call me a n00b.....
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That locator of other players could lead to some rl $#@!......knock knock......hey $#@!, you just call me a n00b.....
I would imagine that is done by area, not so much street. I would like to think it would do it based like wellington as an area for instance. Who knows though
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Not if your running full screen window mode.
Is that an option in BF3/4?
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I would imagine that is done by area, not so much street. I would like to think it would do it based like wellington as an area for instance. Who knows though
I imagine it would be only people on your friends list????
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I like the missions idea, can't see anyone doing useful shit on the tablets/phones during a game, if anything it breaks immersion.
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Is that an option in BF3/4?
Not sure.
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Not sure.
Its an option in BF3, I use it now, so I don't know why it wouldn't be
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New multiplayer trailer and new map out. Off to have a wank now http://youtu.be/m4Fm570WHwk
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I saw jets.....
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I saw lots of shakey screen and heaps of debris stuff.....
Lucky I had a wank before viewing.
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I saw more pointing at stuff.
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I saw more pointing at stuff.
Please don't raise that Point again.....
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Please don't raise that Point again.....
I'm sorry, I'll stay on point next time.
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Please don't raise that Point again.....
I'm sorry, I'll stay on point next time.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztA4eKV-PeU
This is more to the point
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Looks like Battle of The Philippines from 42. I liked that map, glad to see they are bringing it back.
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That's a sweet trailer, i'll give them that.
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Now that's a spectator mode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvAv03Swxc4
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Now that's a spectator mode
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvAv03Swxc4
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Those Jets look cooooool
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Also wire-guided AT is back, hopefully javelin is gone. That alone would make the game better.
Not sure about stationary 50cal sniper rifle. Also TV missile for boats wtf?
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I think it is good they are mixing it up. So the weapons are dif from BF3, otherwise it would just be a big expansion.
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I hope they bring back Map statistics. They had it in BF2 ffs!
I'd like to know how much time i've spent on each map and also to identify the metro whores so I can rant at them!
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You would think with the large emphasis on stats they would have things like that in bf3.
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these jets turn like toy planes they fkd up the manuvering, way too arcadish
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-q5BmeNzEU
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Maybe it's an alpha or something?
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these jets turn like toy planes they fkd up the manuvering, way too arcadish
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-q5BmeNzEU[/url]
is it wrong that I am excited about putting Emblems on my Jet?
I want me some good ol' 1950s Nose art
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these jets turn like toy planes they fkd up the manuvering, way too arcadish
Well considering BF vehicles are pretty arcade I don't see the issue as-long as they are actually a challenge to be good in and balanced vs each other, which has never really happened as far as jets are concerned in a BF game.
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I think they just find it difficult to balance the mobility of jets. They can be pretty much anywhere on the map, a decent AA driver can maybe exclude them from a small section, but they're across the other side of the map in 15s operating with impunity.
That said, increasing the minimum speed would be a pretty good start. I feel like that would mitigate a lot of the problems, giving jets less time to line up slower targets.
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I think they just find it difficult to balance the mobility of jets. They can be pretty much anywhere on the map, a decent AA driver can maybe exclude them from a small section, but they're across the other side of the map in 15s operating with impunity.
That said, increasing the minimum speed would be a pretty good start. I feel like that would mitigate a lot of the problems, giving jets less time to line up slower targets.
Actually - the 2-3 things that would help balance Jets IMO:
1: have RPG projectiles travel at higher velocities - you remember in BC2 when they over buffed the speed of the homing dart gun and the chopper pilots couldn't dodge the dart at all - something like that, the only problem is that choppers would be torn to shreds
2: Make jets vulnerable to small arms fire (rifle and above) doesn't have to be massively - but certainly most jets don't like small arms IRL (except for the A10) and if an inf player was able to give a jet a bloody nose whilst it was strafing - would certainly help
3: Proper Stall mechanics, meaning if a jet tried to pitch up sharply whilst travelling slowly, it would instead stall into the ground (this would be similar to your idea of increasing the min speed)
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Well considering BF vehicles are pretty arcade I don't see the issue as-long as they are actually a challenge to be good in and balanced vs each other, which has never really happened as far as jets are concerned in a BF game.
bf2 jets were balanced well with bf3 they changed it so that any kid can fly. jets had speed, stall, damaged easily and had to use some real skill to be good..not to forget the epic dogfights against pro pilots unlike in bf3 its who can circle the best.
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That said, increasing the minimum speed would be a pretty good start. I feel like that would mitigate a lot of the problems, giving jets less time to line up slower targets.
Completely agree, some hovering jet spamming rockets from over 9000 gets old fast, bring back good old mk82's.
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bf2 jets were balanced well with bf3 they changed it so that any kid can fly. jets had speed, stall, damaged easily and had to use some real skill to be good..not to forget the epic dogfights against pro pilots unlike in bf3 its who can circle the best.
Completely disagree, bf2 jets were completely unbalanced, you forgot about J10 already?
The BF2 jets were also completely unbalanced vs ground units, the air units just raped without even trying all you needed to be able to do was drop a flare when you heard a beep.
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Actually - the 2-3 things that would help balance Jets IMO:
1: have RPG projectiles travel at higher velocities - you remember in BC2 when they over buffed the speed of the homing dart gun and the chopper pilots couldn't dodge the dart at all - something like that, the only problem is that choppers would be torn to shreds
2: Make jets vulnerable to small arms fire (rifle and above) doesn't have to be massively - but certainly most jets don't like small arms IRL (except for the A10) and if an inf player was able to give a jet a bloody nose whilst it was strafing - would certainly help
3: Proper Stall mechanics, meaning if a jet tried to pitch up sharply whilst travelling slowly, it would instead stall into the ground (this would be similar to your idea of increasing the min speed)
Honestly to balance them they need to make them sort of unrealistic and less powerful than in real life, remove any air-2-ground lock-on abilities and make them have to use dumb bombs that need to directly hit an armored target to kill it. Then make AA cannons quite powerful and long range so that AA gunners will skill can take down pilots who get close to them.
Then we will see a nice balance of aircraft keeping away from AA units unless directly engaging them and the aircraft would have to stay higher to stay out of AA Cannon range.
But I think EA wants Jets to be easy and cool so that noobs can get afew kills in them, if they made the changes i'm suggesting AA units would dominate noobs and noobs would complain about jets being useless.
Unfortunately because jets are a specialised skillset and a unit that is probably the most powerful trying to strike a balance between easy/fun to use and not dominating is next to impossible.
An old BFV mod almost had it perfect, the planes were so hard to 'own' with that noobs would actually flock to the AA vehicles to get a good score and leave the jets on the runway, there was a lot of complaining about how shit the jets were but good pilots could still get high scores. The difference was every kill they got was on an enemy heli or an armored unit since attacking infantry was just too risky since flying low was a death sentence.
I don't have any hope BF will ever have good airplanes again because of the console crowd.
I could talk about this all day since i've thought about this a lot but I'll leave it at that.
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What Bell said, bf2 jets were fuckin' shit.
FH and POE had it right.
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Completely disagree, bf2 jets were completely unbalanced, you forgot about J10 already?
The BF2 jets were also completely unbalanced vs ground units, the air units just raped without even trying all you needed to be able to do was drop a flare when you heard a beep.
i guess you havent played after patch. j10 was fixed and so was damaged against jets from ground and AA. you had to be pro to rape ground even still it was a risky, any half decent can eryx jets, 50cal with FAV or tank. who would fire both stingers when you know one is enough to flare...fire the second one after so it hits, by the time he tries to escape or go repair from base you can take off your jet and get him..see what i mean you had to use brains in bf2 not just sit on AA and wait for it like theyv done now. after patch j10 and f35 were quite similar so dogfighting was fair. i doubt any bf game will match the jet dogfighting fun like in bf2. bf3/4 theres no such thing as dogfighting its doing circles, jets go at speed of cars no G's when turning, enemys/tanks and all show up easily ingame in bf2 only when spotted even that on the minimap only so pilot has to guess where he is, with the speed of bf2 jets fly spotting inf while flying then gunning them back without getting hit was some real shit.
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We can thank consoles for ruining battlefield tbh. It will never be the same as Battlefield 2 or previous BF games.
Everything much be easy to play to cater for all the nubs out there and this unfortunately rapes gameplay and any sort of decent competitive play.
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I miss my iron bombs.
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We can thank consoles for ruining battlefield tbh. It will never be the same as Battlefield 2 or previous BF games.
Everything much be easy to play to cater for all the nubs out there and this unfortunately rapes gameplay and any sort of decent competitive play.
+1
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We can thank consoles for ruining battlefield tbh. It will never be the same as Battlefield 2 or previous BF games.
Everything much be easy to play to cater for all the nubs out there and this unfortunately rapes gameplay and any sort of decent competitive play.
I +1 this as well. :(
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I miss my iron bombs.
i certainly don't miss the 'suicide chairs' that were supposed to be AA mounts in BF2
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..see what i mean you had to use brains in bf2...
(http://i.imgur.com/0TXfhtu.png)
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^lols..so you say bf2 jets were shitty but havnt even played the game enough to know about jets jst qq'd for getting raped ?
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^lols..so you say bf2 jets were shitty but havnt even played the game enough to know about jets jst qq'd for getting raped ?
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^lols..so you say bf2 jets were shitty but havnt even played the game enough to know about jets jst qq'd for getting raped ?
yes i played bf2 nd it wz swt to strt wit den it gt rl sdhty whn da rcktz gt nurphd den al da nubz cld sht any1 dn rl ez nd dndt hv 2 aim r nuffink!
i dnt qq i fckd ur mum gngbng stly wid a dildooooooooooooooooooooooooooo luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuls kekeke.
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How long did you have to play BF2 to know how to the use the jets? was playing from onwards from the demo for over a year not long enough?
When was the amazing patch that fixed jets released? after the game was already dead?
All I remember from BF2 was that everyone flew J10's unopposed and strafed AA emplacements with fucking guns at super low altitude.
I also remember that to kill the most "powerful" AA units all one had to do was press the flare button once and release bombs in the general direction of the giant square pointing out there is a unit there. Because not knowing where AA fire is coming from would be mean to the pilots right?
Saying bf2 flying took brains is a joke, you just had to learn a few simple rules.
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cant remeber when after 3rd or 4th patch j10 was fixed. if your talking about the ground aa vehicle it only took one proper burst with cannon to shoot a jet down, its k i know thats still too hard for you lol.
who cares game is dead the jets were great thanks to the nubs who cried about j10 and console fags they made it easier for you guys now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcUO7xUL5Bk
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Never discuss a topic with someone with the maturity of a 8 year old I guess.
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I thought the jets were great in BF2. I was able to do well in them on your average public server, but top pilots would still smash me in dogfights. The fact that there were 3 tiers (crap pilots, average pilots like myself and then good pilots) was enough for me. It's when you've only got 2 tiers, crap and good, that there is a problem, as you should be able to become better than the good/average pilots if you sink more time into it. I played right to the end of BF2 so my last memories of them were when they were at their most "balanced". The J10 was slightly more powerful than the others and it would have been good to bring that back in line with the other jets slightly, but overall I thought the power offered overall was great. They should be the most powerful asset if used well, and its unfortunate they felt the need to nerf them to try and balance the game out.
It is a shame the path they have taken, the series had such great potential to be a truly great game, and I hope one day they stop making game decisions based on "accessability" and simply based on what is going to make the best game.
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Never discuss a topic with someone with the maturity of a 8 year old I guess.
talks about bf2 jets and AA but has hardly even played the game properly to know either about it, good advice^
I thought the jets were great in BF2. I was able to do well in them on your average public server, but top pilots would still smash me in dogfights. The fact that there were 3 tiers (crap pilots, average pilots like myself and then good pilots) was enough for me. It's when you've only got 2 tiers, crap and good, that there is a problem, as you should be able to become better than the good/average pilots if you sink more time into it. I played right to the end of BF2 so my last memories of them were when they were at their most "balanced". The J10 was slightly more powerful than the others and it would have been good to bring that back in line with the other jets slightly, but overall I thought the power offered overall was great. They should be the most powerful asset if used well, and its unfortunate they felt the need to nerf them to try and balance the game out.
It is a shame the path they have taken, the series had such great potential to be a truly great game, and I hope one day they stop making game decisions based on "accessability" and simply based on what is going to make the best game.
well said, too bad they balanced the jets and rest bit too late otherwise the game wudv lived a bit more longer.
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5loth: I definitely didn't play until the end mostly due to being completely turned off the airgame which wasn't apparently fixed for a very long time.
So i'll will take your word for it, in my time there was no difference between average and good because the aircraft were so poorly matched, you had to be shit to lose 1v1 in a J10 vs F35.
And what did they do about the air to ground balance in the later patch?
I also agree aircraft should be the most powerful when used well but that power should be based on their ability to strike a very important enemy target such as armour or a heli at the right time, not by racking up a stupid KDR against infantry and light vehicles.
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To be honest a really skilled pilot in BF3 can still dominate. At least that's what I've noticed from some servers lately. Especially with 3d spotting its almost impossible to hide. I imagine the skill gap between pilots is a lot smaller than previous BFs which would be frustrating for the expert pilots out there.
Snake was a decent BF2 pilot so I'll take his word for it tbh.
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To be honest a really skilled pilot in BF3 can still dominate. At least that's what I've noticed from some servers lately. Especially with 3d spotting its almost impossible to hide. I imagine the skill gap between pilots is a lot smaller than previous BFs which would be frustrating for the expert pilots out there.
Snake was a decent BF2 pilot so I'll take his word for it tbh.
very. pilots call themselves experts in bf3 when they find out how to balance speed and make tight turns. most of them iv hardly even seen in bf2, they have no idea how much skill needed, fun & realistic dogfighting in bf2 is. doing tight turns & keep on circling does require skill but it aint a real dogfight, bf2 had soo much more to it which they took out. Havnt seen most decent bf2 pilots in bf3, guess they all gave up seeing the change.
killing inf with 3d spotting makes it more easier with how slow the jets fly yet still manage to have control.
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Imma gonna wade in again on this, but before I start:
1: I never played Bf2 so I cannot comment on the whether this was Balanced or not
2: I did however play a LOT of flight sims/flight combat games and on top of that, have flown Fixed wing and Helicopters IRL (have yet to fly a jet though :( )
3: I am an above Average jet pilot in BF3, but I still get torn to shreds by most 100 Colnels with more DF experiance than me.
When I first started flying in BF3 the first thing that pissed me off was the lack of a proper stall mechanic - it meant that any interesting moves that utilise stalling (such as a barrel roll, Hammerhead turn etc.) aren't possible.
The second thing that pissed me off is the Throttle response - I started flying with a joystick and an Analogue throttle (its the way I have always flown) which should give me a huge advantage in the game (being able to set the throttle at the optimum speed, being able to adjust slightly when in a DF etc.) but due to the way the throttle control works in the game, this is actually a major disadvantage as the the throttle response is only binary (on or off) which means you have to use keys for throttle response.
The last thing that pissed me off - the fact that the Super Hornet can fly rings around the Flanker (seriously, the Flanker is capable of post-stalll maneuvering and the Hornet isn't)
For me - I don't think much needs to be done to make the Jets more balanced - a Good AA gunner is able to take down a jet without any issue (just many AA gunners are retards who use it to shoot Inf and only use the Lock On missles)
they just need to add some Stall Mechanics and some realistic throttle response, make it so that LMGs and HMGs damage jets, remove the rocket pods and give us Gravity bombs
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I admired the way some creative BF2 pilots pressed the attack when there shitty Chinese cannons jammed
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v430/maxQ/BF2/th_Close.png) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/maxQ/media/BF2/Close.png.html)
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I miss my iron bombs.
Sup, back in 2007 :D
(http://imageshack.us/a/img801/5839/8mqv.jpg)
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:D Carpet bombing with the F15/SU's was so much fun.
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its a shame really ... cause there aint gonna be anything like bf2 cause scrubs complain and games are meant for kids, even if the labeling does say R15+ :(
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But BF2 is hardly violent and it is far from difficult. It's still such an absolutely amazing game.
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