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General Chat / Re: THIS IS SHIT SHIT SHITBALLS
« on: November 25, 2015, 03:35:13 pm »
I know the difference, but the only way that I would know of only one price was if there was only one price (or you execute your customers after they purchase, but that isn't a sustainable Business model  ;))
Or you hand out special glasses that replace the price for only you. Hypothetical scenario to illustrate my point. But yes I think you understood what I was getting at. Not against executing customers, after all you already have their money. They are no longer of use to you now :P

With a universal digital distribution - all the other factors that would drive price (excluding company greed) are mitigated. There is no Economies of Scale, No increased cost due to the haulage costs.
Got some non-anecdotal evidence for that? Otherwise it's just your opinion based on what you believe is the case.

Things are rarely as simple as they appear, and to think they are isn't particularly insightful.

Asking why is a great way to learn. Even if it doesn't give you an answer, it might give you more questions. Jumping to a conclusion that we should all pay the same for goods with very little (or no) evidence is not the way to spark intelligent conversation.

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General Chat / Re: THIS IS SHIT SHIT SHITBALLS
« on: November 25, 2015, 02:30:08 pm »
Sure I'd be happy - because only one price would be published, which is the one price everyone would be paying.
I didn't say that everyone would be paying the same price. I said you would only know of one price. Big difference.

Damn straight I perceive it as a rip-off if someone else is getting it cheaper - I'm happy to pay for a Companies profit - you develop a game, your per-unit cost should cover the costs to develop that game, costs for future developments and a good percentage markup for Profit. I'm okay with that. If you tell me that when you factor in the number of units you expect to sell and to meet all of those requirements, its going to be $80 - I'll open my Wallet and cough up my $80.

Now, my acceptance of that $80 is based on the above premise, that this is the amount based on the number of Units you expect to sell. If you then turn around and in another country put the cost at $20 (to cover the above) - then that means you are attempting to extort $60 out of me - without giving me anything to justify the increased cost.

Trade pricing is different - that is done on the basis of Economies of Scale - I'll probably spend maybe $200 a year at Mitre 10, I'm happy paying full price for that. If I was in trade and spending $1-2K a week at Mitre 10, I'd be expecting some form of discount, based on the volume of sales that I represent.
Wait you understand how Economies of Scale affects trade prices, but you can't see that there may be other factors driving the price difference?

Trade pricing is the same exact same scenario. We don't know why the price is different in games, so we have to exclude that from the trade price scenario (Economies of Scale). When we do that we have someone getting the same item cheaper than someone else.

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Intellectual Discussion / Re: THe Flag thread.
« on: November 25, 2015, 02:22:28 pm »
To me - that is Arse-about-face.

Decide if you want to change first, then start making alternatives then determine if those alternatives are good enough to justify change.
People are change adverse. If you do a survey asking for change, most people will vote against change.

That's effectively what you are proposing.

1) Let's Change!
2) No!
3) Ok!
4) Repeat from Step 1

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Intellectual Discussion / Re: THe Flag thread.
« on: November 25, 2015, 02:05:23 pm »
No, the current referendum is asking us to select our preferred alternative - not whether or not we want change.

Before the Road show, before the Designs, Before ANYTHING - there should have been a referendum about whether NZ wanted to change - if the response was more than 50% no, then we stop - and save a good chunk of that $26 Mill, if more than 50% was yes they would be interested in Change - THEN we proceed with all the circus that the flag debacle has been.
There is only ONE referendum. The ultimate goal is to determine whether NZ wants a new flag.

How do you know you don't want a change if you don't know the options for change?

It's the exact same thing as deciding your hole in the ground is the best, without even popping your head up out of the hole to see other holes.

You might think your current hole is pretty good, but other people are quite interested in seeing the other holes in the paddock before choosing a hole they want to sit in.

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Intellectual Discussion / Re: THe Flag thread.
« on: November 25, 2015, 01:54:14 pm »
1: it wasn't a change that anyone wanted (polling before it was announced I think from memory was 70% against changing the flag)
The entire referendum is to determine EXACTLY THIS. What better way to draw a useful conclusion that doing an OFFICIAL "country wide poll".

To say that no-one wanted it before the referendum has actually taken place, is just plain stupid.

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General Chat / Re: THIS IS SHIT SHIT SHITBALLS
« on: November 25, 2015, 01:44:38 pm »
Your wandering into one of my other theories here, that people should only ever pay what they feel is appropriate for digital content.

Imagine if every game, movie, tv show, mp3, etc was sold like a humble bundle style of pay what you want. Perfection.
*Perfection for the consumer.

That's fine and dandy after you've recouped your costs, and most likely some profit. (most) People don't work for free.

You neglect the fact most games have already had an official release, with a sticker price. In which the developer has most likely made their investment, and some.

I like HumbleBundle, and I am fairly generous when I use their service.

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General Chat / Re: THIS IS SHIT SHIT SHITBALLS
« on: November 25, 2015, 01:31:30 pm »
And its reasonable that I will want to minimize my expenditure to a level that is acceptable to me - I'm not a charity either and so I object to paying a rip-off price, solely to subsidise others to enjoy the same content.
Your first sentence holds merit. The rest, not so much. Classic case of FOMO.

Would it make you happy if they didn't publish any prices except for the one you are paying?

You only perceive it to be a rip-off because you see someone else getting it cheaper.

If you don't want to pay the sticker price for a game, then don't. Simple as that. minimize my expenditure to a level that is acceptable to me. Do exactly that, by not purchasing the game.

Next thing you'll be running to Mitre 10, and demanding trade prices because "that other guy got trade prices". It's not how shit works.

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General Chat / Re: THIS IS SHIT SHIT SHITBALLS
« on: November 25, 2015, 11:50:21 am »
Communism isn't left wing.

I don't think it's even a wing.

(I kid of course, only because communism isn't a thing)

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General Chat / Re: THIS IS SHIT SHIT SHITBALLS
« on: November 25, 2015, 10:33:46 am »
The point (I think) SM is making.

You aren't going to die if you don't play game xyz.

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General Chat / Re: THIS IS SHIT SHIT SHITBALLS
« on: November 25, 2015, 10:28:29 am »
Maybe EvilCorp intended to sell the game at $40. Then two people arbitrarily decided $40 was too expensive and pirated it. Leaving them to recoup $40, which is the extra they charge the next man through the door.

Just because you feel hard done by is not a reason to pirate goods.

In my opinion, the only valid reason for piracy is if a digital media is deliberately made unavailable by the manufacturer without a "just reason". And this doesn't include things being "delayed to market", because international compliance and law is complex, and time consuming.

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General Chat / Re: THIS IS SHIT SHIT SHITBALLS
« on: November 25, 2015, 10:00:38 am »
Maybe they aren't selling it at a profit.

Maybe by taking a negative profit (aka. "a loss" to the people in the know) they are able to get their game to reach more of an audience. And just maybe that might add more intangible value to their product.

These "facts" you are basing your argument on are crap.

It's like you've written a book, or many books, on how you think things should be done with "testaments"; and are now knocking on peoples doors looking for people to join your crusade. Sound familiar?

Don't come in here and pretend to know what you're talking about when you don't have all the information.


Do I agree with GST on digital goods? I don't know. It feels weird, but I'm certainly not pretending that I know more about the markets than the companies selling the goods.

Idiocy in thread is at an all time high.

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General Chat / Re: THIS IS SHIT SHIT SHITBALLS
« on: November 24, 2015, 04:30:23 pm »
It's not meant to stop a monopoly, it's meant to ensure that kiwis never pay a cent more than anyone else in the world for a product. If the entire planet is begin squeezed by a monopoly, then so be it, but I doubt that situation would ever happen, someone would innovate around it.
Let's not stop on a country level.

Regionally people in Otago shouldn't be paying more for butter than the people in Waikato.

Hell, throw out regionally, lets do it on postcodes, no streets!

Stupid idea is stupid.

Price varies "inexplicably", just deal with it. If you don't like it move to the place which offers things at the price you want, and complain about other things you don't agree with.

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Buy, Sell Or Trade / Re: FS : BRAND NEW 50" SONY ANDROID TV
« on: November 20, 2015, 09:50:18 am »
Plot Twist: Lias is the tranny.

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Technology & Hardware / Re: Good programming language to learn?
« on: November 18, 2015, 09:47:56 am »
Try doing it, when not using a Windows Form application.

Use a console application instead. Using Windows Forms forms (heh) really bad habits.

See if you can do it without Math.Pow too, it's nice to explore and understand how to do something instead of just using something that someone else wrote.

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Technology & Hardware / Re: Good programming language to learn?
« on: November 17, 2015, 09:57:00 pm »
A method is a grouping of statements. They are usually created when you have a group of statements that you wish to run in that sequence more than once. There's no guarantee that it will do the exact same thing every time, but only that it will execute the same way**.

Method/Function/Operation/Subroutine, are all interchangeable. In C#, method is the correct name.

**Ignoring conditional branches.. if(...)...

Make something that takes two whole numbers, A and B. Return the result that is equivalent to A^B.

Or try: http://www.learncs.org/en/Variables_and_Types

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Technology & Hardware / Re: User Error: Replace User immediately
« on: November 17, 2015, 05:40:17 pm »
I do not write programs to fail by accident.
If they fail, it is the users fault and you should yell at them until they leave the immediate area.


Code: [Select]
if(!isNumber)
{
    YellAtuser();
}

TryParse is so much nicer than try catch blocks. Code readability > everything.

getLocationOnScreen(), is the correct approach..? Needs to be run after the layout has been performed.

Yuck: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19497402/get-position-of-imageview-relative-to-screen-programmatically

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Technology & Hardware / Re: Good programming language to learn?
« on: November 17, 2015, 09:42:03 am »
You can't specify an access modifier in a method... That's reserved for declaration of fields, properties, methods or events. This isn't a C# "problem" the same technique is used across MANY languages. Should probably read the basics of C# before diving in, then complaining that the incorrect code you are writing isn't compiling.

It's as simple as:
Code: [Select]
public void Method()
{
    int localVariable;
    localVariable = (int) att.Value; //Not sure if the explicit cast is required here, as there is no context.
}

public int .... is reserved for fields in a class, e.g.

Code: [Select]
public class MyClass
{
    public int SomeClassVariable;

    public void SomeMethod()
    {
        SomeClassVariable = 1;
    }
}

Tiwa, why no TryParse? :P

C#
Code: [Select]
int number;
bool isNumber = Int32.TryParse(att.Value, out number);

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Buy, Sell Or Trade / Re: WTB: DDR2
« on: November 04, 2015, 04:47:40 am »
Well, fuck you too <3

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Buy, Sell Or Trade / Re: WTB: DDR2
« on: November 01, 2015, 10:57:34 pm »
:( I gave away my old DDR2 xD. Might still have some lying around.

If you can wait 2 weeks until I get back, I'll check for you SM.

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General Chat / Re: Sup, long time.
« on: October 17, 2015, 10:52:28 am »
Have you tried manually updating PunkBuster?

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General Chat / Re: Ad-Blockers
« on: October 08, 2015, 07:38:02 am »
Have noscript for that. Blocks ALL the bullshit.
Privacy Badger >> Noscript.

Used to use noscript years ago.

Can block more than social media, any domain etc.. if you wish, the social media thing is nice though, it overlays the buttons on pages n shit.

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General Chat / Re: Ad-Blockers
« on: October 07, 2015, 11:40:56 pm »
+1 to UBlock + Privacy Badger. Nothing gets through unless you want it to.

Privacy Badger stops all the Social Media tracking bullshit, such a bonus

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General Chat / Re: What grinds your gears?
« on: September 11, 2015, 03:14:05 pm »
Ironically my car is actually having trouble changing gears and is grinding gears. Good job I got that 3 year warranty..
PEBSAC

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Intellectual Discussion / Re: What happend to personal responsbility?
« on: September 11, 2015, 10:25:00 am »
I should really do something about my credit card.

Like, get rid of it and sign up for a debit card.
Keep it. Rack up a huge debt. Then contact the news media and publish a story.

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General Chat / Re: What grinds your gears?
« on: September 10, 2015, 10:22:35 pm »
What is it?

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