Get Some
Games => Console => Topic started by: Bounty Hunter on February 21, 2013, 05:57:02 pm
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I dont want one.
They called it Playstation 4.
And they talk about ingenuity, thinking outside of the box and the experience and all these buzz words.
And they called it playstation 4.
That tells me one thing; this video is entirely bullshit and it'll be as crappy as every other playstation after about 3 months.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5hjx2Sd52U4#!
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Be more butthurt, honestly.
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Be more butthurt, honestly.
THEY CALLED IT PLAYSTATION FUCKING 4
I guess in 3 years time we'll have playstation 5
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rant cont'd
IMAGINE IF MICROSOFT CALLED WINDOWS 9!!!!
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THEY CALLED IT PLAYSTATION FUCKING 4
I guess in 3 years time we'll have playstation 5
Five years time actually. The lifespan of consoles is traditionally five years. They've only managed to squeeze extra life out of the last generation consoles (xbox360 & PS3) by adding rubbish Motion Controls and declaring victory.
And it is still less powerful than a decent computer.
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Five years time actually. The lifespan of consoles is traditionally five years. They've only managed to squeeze extra life out of the last generation consoles (xbox360 & PS3) by adding rubbish Motion Controls and declaring victory.
And it is still less powerful than a decent computer.
it's a 1.fuckall OCT CORE!?!?!? EIGHT FUCKING CORES!!?!?! 8 CORES DOING PISS ALL EACH!
no apparently it'll have awesome throughput, interesting, but still uninspired.
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All that said in that video after all that bullsit was that it will use the internet and have a share button.
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All that said in that video after all that bullsit was that it will use the internet and have a share button.
Did they ask you about PS4 bell?
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The controller looks more expensive (with flashing lights).
I don't want expensive controllers, look what happend with the Wii U.
I'll be interested to see the next xbox
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Five years time actually. The lifespan of consoles is traditionally five years. They've only managed to squeeze extra life out of the last generation consoles (xbox360 & PS3) by adding rubbish Motion Controls and declaring victory.
And it is still less powerful than a decent computer.
rubbish Motion Controls ?
The Kinect is awesome. You just have no dance skills.
I got 5 stars on Soulja Boy.
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I want dat 1080p at 60fps.
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i had that many bloody emails over the last few days saying, HOLY SHIT BALLs PS4 is coming ! i found a nice short clip to explain this latest round of fanboyism
http://youtu.be/0rJDn0jRnUQ
http://youtu.be/0rJDn0jRnUQ
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The controller looks more expensive (with flashing lights).
I don't want expensive controllers, look what happend with the Wii U.
I'll be interested to see the next xbox
I am going to wait for the Playstation 5.
If man is still alive.
If woman can survive.
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Not sold on the PS4, but i'm definitely going to get one of the two consoles for shits and gigs. There's so much a console can do before it's up to the developers to just make a good game. Hopefully the xbox will be backwards compatible.
Looks like e3 this year is gonna be pretty interesting (finally)
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Looks like e3 this year is gonna be pretty interesting (finally)
WOOT MORE PRERENDERED VIDEOS FROM SQUARE ENIX SCORE!!!!!!
LAIR 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lair_(video_game)) & DAMNATION 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnation_(video_game)) OMGGGG!!!!!
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i had that many bloody emails over the last few days saying, HOLY SHIT BALLs PS4 is coming ! i found a nice short click to explain this latest round of fanboyism
[url]http://youtu.be/0rJDn0jRnUQ[/url]
[url]http://youtu.be/0rJDn0jRnUQ[/url]
I love that interpretation
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Fun apparent fact about the new xbox
It will be like a steam account. You wont be able to sell any games once you have them. They will be registered to your account and that's that. Not sure if I'd be comfortable with that on a console lol.
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Fun apparent fact about the new xbox
It will be like a steam account. You wont be able to sell any games once you have them. They will be registered to your account and that's that. Not sure if I'd be comfortable with that on a console lol.
PS4 too.
it was inevitable, makes sense from a business perspective, they had an interview with some head from EB games New Zealand, he said, haha, get this, he reckoned sony/microsoft would kill off the 2nd hand games market! hahahahahahahahahahha how the fuck did he get to the top of EB games? he must have been the guy who decided to have huge sales at eb game....every day
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Fun apparent fact about the new xbox
It will be like a steam account. You wont be able to sell any games once you have them. They will be registered to your account and that's that. Not sure if I'd be comfortable with that on a console lol.
It's already like that with the existing Xbox 360, games you buy and download to your console are tied to your account. This is a good thing, allows you to play those games on any console, just need to log in.
Sony have said that store bought games on disc can be run on any PS4. You still can sell them on. I'd imagine it would be the same with store bought games for the next xbox.
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Sony have said that store bought games on disc can be run on any PS4. You still can sell them on. I'd imagine it would be the same with store bought games for the next xbox.
I was just going to say that Sony execs have come out and say physical pre-owned games will not be locked to individual consoles.
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It's already like that with the existing Xbox 360, games you buy and download to your console are tied to your account. This is a good thing, allows you to play those games on any console, just need to log in.
Sony have said that store bought games on disc can be run on any PS4. You still can sell them on. I'd imagine it would be the same with store bought games for the next xbox.
I was just going to say that Sony execs have come out and say physical pre-owned games will not be locked to individual consoles.
oh ok.
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Nope, Physical copies of the new gen xbox will not be able to be resold, according to googles and websites.
Imo it stops people from wanting to try games. Who's going to trial a $100 game that they can't return / sell on?
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You can still try games via trials and demos and betas so I don't see that as being much of an issue.
Software isn't like other second hand goods because the quality of the product stays exactly the same no matter how many people sell on.
People don't realise that they never actually own a computer game, because a computer game is just a shitload of code which you don't have access to, you are really buying a licence to run that code.
So I see no reason why people think they have the right to on-sell, gamers really think they are an entitled bunch.
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You can still try games via trials and demos and betas so I don't see that as being much of an issue.
Software isn't like other second hand goods because the quality of the product stays exactly the same no matter how many people sell on.
People don't realise that they never actually own a computer game, because a computer game is just a shitload of code which you don't have access to, you are really buying a licence to run that code.
So I see no reason why people think they have the right to on-sell, gamers really think they are an entitled bunch.
True.
So why don't developers and publishers release the game under a cheaper licensing scheme instead of hitting us with one $100+ payment and telling us the game doesn't belong to us?
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Nope, Physical copies of the new gen xbox will not be able to be resold, according to googles and websites.
Imo it stops people from wanting to try games. Who's going to trial a $100 game that they can't return / sell on?
Are you confusing speculation and rumours with fact?
MS have not released any information yet at all about the next xbox at all.
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True.
So why don't developers and publishers release the game under a cheaper licensing scheme instead of hitting us with one $100+ payment and telling us the game doesn't belong to us?
The fact publishers are still charging NZers and Aussie $100 is total bullshit when they are selling for $50 in the US but that's another issue.
$50 is fair considering the huge production costs and the risks involved with game dev these days.
Just look at all of the publishers and studios that have been folding for the last few years.
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I'd be happy if my physical copy was tied to my account if it meant I could play the game without needing to insert the disk.
I never onsell games anyway.
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I am interested in this only because I instantly recognised the Playstation 3 for what it is: A big black money-losing turd which would only get more stale with time.
It would be nice to see Sony manage to reverse this terrible trend because if it doesnt then it will become This Generations Sega (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega#Shift_to_third-party_software_developer_.282001.E2.80.932005.29)
I never onsell games anyway.
BAD MONKEY!!! BAD!!
Hit yourself with a rolled up newspaper
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BAD MONKEY!!! BAD!!
Hit yourself with a rolled up newspaper
As much as I enjoying hitting myself with long cylindrical objects, why is not selling my games bad?
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As much as I enjoying hitting myself with long cylindrical objects, why is not selling my games bad?
Maybe you are right. You should onsell your newspaper to me so I can onhit myself in the face
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Honestly I've got more than what I paid out of my ps3 in terms of gameplay etc so looking forward to what the ps4 can offer
What you all might or might not find interesting is that the pcsx2 developers were approached by sony for something
PS4 is x86 architecture, pcsx2 is developed for x86 ps2 emulation
if the ps4 has software emulation for ps2 games that actually works properly then i'll be all over it really. It's a shame that it won't be able to do ps3 games though
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^Exactly, the amount of hours I have got out of my PS3 has made it well and truly worth it. Lasted from early 2006 all the way to the end of last year playing the latest games with decent graphics.
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True.
So why don't developers and publishers release the game under a cheaper licensing scheme instead of hitting us with one $100+ payment and telling us the game doesn't belong to us?
Because food is important.
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Looks nice. Need to see some closer up pics though.
http://live.kotaku.com/were-liveblogging-sonys-e3-2013-press-conference-righ-512241756
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RIP XBONER
"Tretton says there are no restrictions on their used game policy -- another huge applause. That includes trade-ins, giving games to friends, etc. He's really soaking in the love. The crowd is going wild."
"PS4 won't require you to check-in online periodically. And it won't stop working if you haven't authenticated within 24 hours."
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and $399 USD.
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I wonder what the nz price will be.
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What are you doing, Microsoft.
Fucking honestly.
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MS shot themselves in the foot with the used game thing. They went the way PC games are, where a CD key gets tied to an account (like steam) and that's that (I prefer it) . But Console players aren't ready for that yet.
But at the same time they tried to get used games working with an account based system, by allowing games to be transferred/sold on. They tried to get the best of both worlds, but it didn't work.
Sony stuck to sticking the disc in and playing, and they won.
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(http://cdn.gameplanet.co.nz/art/gallery/3694170.jpg)
I love the console design. Never cared much for the ps controller though.
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One thing to note: You will need a PS+ subscription to play multiplayer online on the PS4.
It seems you'll still be able to use other features with internet connectivity if you don't have a subscription and PS+ at least comes with free games every month, but that is one annoying feature announced.
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I might actually buy one of these.
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One thing to note: You will need a PS+ subscription to play multiplayer online on the PS4.
It seems you'll still be able to use other features with internet connectivity and PS+ at least comes with free games every month, but that is one annoying feature announced.
Yeah that fact alone has locked me in to NOT buying a console now.
But I guess nothings free in life, Not complaining.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA
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Really?
Its $89.95 a year, you get a bunch of games free and 1 major title a year. For PS4 launch its a copy of DriveClub which you can preorder now for $120.
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Yeah i've got heaps of amazing games from ps+ that I would have bought normally costing more than the subscription o-o
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Really?
Its $89.95 a year, you get a bunch of games free and 1 major title a year. For PS4 launch its a copy of DriveClub which you can preorder now for $120.
I suppose now that both consoles are doing it, I wouldn't feel as ripped off as xbox 360 p2p vs ps3 free online.
But like I said, I realise nothing is free in life, I'm not complaining. I'll just always stick to the computer now.
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It wont be too long before this bullshit hits the PC
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Just saw that KH3 Is going to be exclusively for PS4...
Shit.
I'm so easily swayed. Maybe in a year or two..
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-06-11-final-fantasy-15-set-for-xbox-one-too
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Yeah FFXV was always going to be. We'll see much better cross console porting since both consoles are using a x86 architecture x)
I'm not surprised that KH is exclusive, pretty sure sony has secured some of its rights also.
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I brought a ps3 for FF13, was disappointed... still havent tried 13-2 apparently it makes up for what 13 was.... but meh.
Not interested in a console.
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Yeah FFXV was always going to be. We'll see much better cross console porting since both consoles are using a x86 architecture x)
I'm not surprised that KH is exclusive, pretty sure sony has secured some of its rights also.
You not read article?
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You not read article?
Not even a little bit. Have now though, interesting though. Good for those few who will invest in next gen xbox lol
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'The Last of Us' looks pretty good. I wound consider getting a PS3 just to play that.
So if anyone is selling one...
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It's amazing tbh
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Seriously, game of all the years.
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Software isn't like other second hand goods because the quality of the product stays exactly the same no matter how many people sell on.
People don't realise that they never actually own a computer game, because a computer game is just a $#@!load of code which you don't have access to, you are really buying a licence to run that code.
So I see no reason why people think they have the right to on-sell, gamers really think they are an entitled bunch.
I disagree with a whole lot of that. Second hand games like PS3 for example have built in obsolescence like the console life cycle so the original doesn't need to deteriorate. Furthermore other copyright material like say music albums on vinyl can last for 100 years in perfect condition and it's still legal to sell it. Also (in the US at least) you are allowed to copy your original to prevent damage and wear to it. Just because it may last longer or be less tangible than other consumer goods doesn't automatically grant exemption from consumer law. There were never degrees of applicability to the right of second sale before for goods that lasted longer or were less tangible than others. This is basic common sense and one reason why consumers prefer to buy goods that last longer. You simply price your goods on demand, with the used market affecting that price accordingly. There is no need to go rewriting the law books to accommodate their greed.
A EULA might tell you that you are buying a licence to run the code only but that is a lie. If you don't sign a contract before making a purchase, right of first sale is assumed to apply. Therefore you do own your copy and are entitled to sell it, and the EULA is invalid, whether it's a digital download or not. Also it is easy to defeat any accusation based on a EULA because they are so called boilerplate contracts that are often seen as unethical and in law they are usually unconscionable (but again the MPAA has had success in some cases in the US against this). Breaking a EULA is simple breach of contract, and not illegal. Breaking copyright law however is illegal.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/07/top-eu-court-upholds-right-to-resell-downloaded-software/
What if you buy and download a $1,500 commercial software product to support a contract you have and then 2 weeks later you lose the contract? In recognition of this some publishers already provide a function so within the program, or online, you can release the licence (serial key) and on-sell the software. What if you buy Resident Evil 6 Premium Edition which was US $1,338 then lose an arm a week later and can't play anymore? Are these examples of entitlement? Why should delivery method (download vs. physical) affect your consumer rights? At any rate either way you buy the right to install from the same 0's and 1's, be they online or in your drive, why should it even matter where the installer was?
Steam are currently in court in Europe for barring users from selling used Steam games. This may be why it appears that Steam are going to launch sharing, to appease users.
What about users who have $5,000 invested in software in a company which could go tits up any day, or change their terms and conditions preventing access to their library, or changes those terms such that the owner does not want to accept them? That, justifiably is entitlement.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/02/01/valve-sued-by-german-consumer-group-because-steam-users-cant-resell-games/
I think the problem here is that as we are told of the piracy cost, of companies going out of business, we start to believe invalid EULAs and their invalid terms, etc. and it all becomes the new norm. If the right to second sale is to be forfeit then this should be reflected in a discount in retail pricing, but that would never happen and even if it did prices would soon be back up again. Here in NZ, and in Oz, UK, and S America we should be particularly concerned about all this as we are gouged for double the retail cost that the rest of the world are paying.
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^ I disagree with a whole lot of that.
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http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/06/29/the-road-to-the-playstation-4
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I tried watching that.
I only got 5 minutes in before I wanted to punch the guy in the mouth when all he could do was to gloat about getting a job as a game dev at the age of 17. Back when he was 17, they would have given dev jobs to dildos if they knew they could program.
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More interesting in the later stages when discussing architecture.
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Release date for Australia is November 29. I assume that would be for New Zealand as well.
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/08/ps4-release-date-is-november-15/