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Title: how did ebola start
Post by: pickle-bomb on November 11, 2014, 07:56:47 pm
People at school and on the internet have been saying that ebola started when some africans ate bats. Is this true? :-\
Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: Kayne on November 11, 2014, 08:04:35 pm
Some animal carrying the disease infected a human. Probably.

You can't say for sure because no one knows for sure. But humans spread the disease a lot faster than animals do.
Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: pickle-bomb on November 11, 2014, 08:22:07 pm
Some animal carrying the disease infected a human. Probably.

You can't say for sure because no one knows for sure. But humans spread the disease a lot faster than animals do.

sounds about right.

I just wasn't sure about the bat bit.
Title: Ebola - mortality rate
Post by: Tiwaking! on November 11, 2014, 09:04:59 pm
Please be aware that ebola is bad, but not as deadly as everyone says it is. Without medical help you've got about a 50% chance of surviving.
The most scary thing is the bleeding from everywhere before dying horribly.
A 14-year-old Ebola survivor speaks out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkYFo8-AUhg#ws)
Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: kruz on November 11, 2014, 09:25:38 pm
I would assume some puppet like Gallo or similar made it in a lab, by gene splicing, or whatever it is called.
Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: Retardobot on November 12, 2014, 12:04:21 am
It worries me that you're an admin.
Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: kruz on November 12, 2014, 06:40:19 am
You're familiar with the term Biological Warfare?. People often confuse it with Chemical Warfare, which is an entirely different beast. I think it is foolish to assume that all of the funds in the military budget of a fine upstanding country like America, only go to developing guns, and ammunition. It is not a big stretch of a persons thought process,  to consider that maybe these billions of dollars help fund projects where, as is so often the case, people do things because they can, without thinking whether or not they should. The US has declared it has biological weapons capabilities, this is irrefutable, so how do said Biologicals occur?. do they harvest the common cold, and pop it in an ICBM, and say "this country will rue the due it messed with America", or do they develop something in the lab, that has the potential to wipe out whole towns?.

    Building on that idea again, is it also foolish to assume that all wars in the history of man, have been fought in the stereotypical "guns and tanks on foreign soil" way, or is it possible that govt's have learned that the publics disdain for open warfare, would make ridiculous efforts like America in Iraq / Afghanistan, a bad political move, so they wage war in a more subtle, and undetectable way?.

You obviously have a set of values that you base your opinion on, I have a differing set of beliefs, based on my years of research in this field, and other ones similar to it. It would be beneficial for the sake of discussion, that we do not have to resort to character assassinations to express these differing opinions, and then maybe we leave ourselves open to learn from each other, rather than just repeating the very first online argument, that has been photocopied every minute of every day since the creation of the interwebz as we know them?.

:)
Title: Re: Ebola - mortality rate
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on November 12, 2014, 06:43:05 am
Please be aware that ebola is bad, but not as deadly as everyone says it is. Without medical help you've got about a 50% chance of surviving.

50% survival rate sounds pretty deadly to me.


People at school and on the internet have been saying that ebola started when some africans ate bats. Is this true? :-\

Unless you attend a school of Pathology, I doubt that.


Anyway Batman is a good guy.



Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on November 12, 2014, 06:44:46 am
It worries me that you're an admin.

It worries me that you're an admin of this place.


I secretly hope you will tie me up and abuse me with your admin powers.

Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: Xsannz on November 12, 2014, 06:51:26 am
People at school and on the internet have been saying that ebola started when some africans ate bats. Is this true? :-\

actually Ebola is a disease that emanated from animal, much like aids (HIV) and was contracted in African countries rurally that tend to eat monkeys as a food source.

It is believed that the virus originates in fruit bats. It circulates in populations of wild animals including gorillas, fruit bats, monkeys, antelopes and even porcupines.

It was first identified in Zaire (modern day Democratic Republic of the Congo) in 1976. The first victim was a schoolmaster in the village of Yambuku in the north of the country. The disease got its name from the nearby Ebola River, a tributary of the Congo River. That first outbreak infected at least 318 people and killed 88 per cent of the people affected.

Another simultaneous outbreak, in Sudan, infected nearly 300 people, with a mortality rate of around 50 per cent.

Since then there have been several outbreaks, but none anywhere near as devastating as the current one.
Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on November 12, 2014, 06:54:34 am
Which is why you should not eat monkeys.

Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: kruz on November 12, 2014, 06:54:59 am
I couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: Xsannz on November 12, 2014, 07:12:06 am
ok so nobody eat the Garry's mod player please, they all act like monkeys.
Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: pickle-bomb on November 12, 2014, 08:03:07 am
People at school and on the internet have been saying that ebola started when some africans ate bats. Is this true? :-\

actually Ebola is a disease that emanated from animal, much like aids (HIV) and was contracted in African countries rurally that tend to eat monkeys as a food source.

It is believed that the virus originates in fruit bats. It circulates in populations of wild animals including gorillas, fruit bats, monkeys, antelopes and even porcupines.

It was first identified in Zaire (modern day Democratic Republic of the Congo) in 1976. The first victim was a schoolmaster in the village of Yambuku in the north of the country. The disease got its name from the nearby Ebola River, a tributary of the Congo River. That first outbreak infected at least 318 people and killed 88 per cent of the people affected.

Another simultaneous outbreak, in Sudan, infected nearly 300 people, with a mortality rate of around 50 per cent.

Since then there have been several outbreaks, but none anywhere near as devastating as the current one.

Daym you got a social studies project right there.

thanks for the info  :)
Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on November 12, 2014, 08:26:22 am
Make sure you correctly reference Xsannz using proper APA Referencing.

Xsannz, D. (2014). How did ebola start.
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Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: The Demon Lord on November 12, 2014, 09:16:34 am
You're familiar with the term Biological Warfare?. People often confuse it with Chemical Warfare, which is an entirely different beast. I think it is foolish to assume that all of the funds in the military budget of a fine upstanding country like America, only go to developing guns, and ammunition. It is not a big stretch of a persons thought process,  to consider that maybe these billions of dollars help fund projects where, as is so often the case, people do things because they can, without thinking whether or not they should. The US has declared it has biological weapons capabilities, this is irrefutable, so how do said Biologicals occur?. do they harvest the common cold, and pop it in an ICBM, and say "this country will rue the due it messed with America", or do they develop something in the lab, that has the potential to wipe out whole towns?.

    Building on that idea again, is it also foolish to assume that all wars in the history of man, have been fought in the stereotypical "guns and tanks on foreign soil" way, or is it possible that govt's have learned that the publics disdain for open warfare, would make ridiculous efforts like America in Iraq / Afghanistan, a bad political move, so they wage war in a more subtle, and undetectable way?.

You obviously have a set of values that you base your opinion on, I have a differing set of beliefs, based on my years of research in this field, and other ones similar to it. It would be beneficial for the sake of discussion, that we do not have to resort to character assassinations to express these differing opinions, and then maybe we leave ourselves open to learn from each other, rather than just repeating the very first online argument, that has been photocopied every minute of every day since the creation of the interwebz as we know them?.

:)

Let me get my Tin-Foil Hat for maximum Protection from mind probes
Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: Retardobot on November 12, 2014, 10:04:07 am
You're familiar with the term Biological Warfare?. People often confuse it with Chemical Warfare, which is an entirely different beast. I think it is foolish to assume that all of the funds in the military budget of a fine upstanding country like America, only go to developing guns, and ammunition. It is not a big stretch of a persons thought process,  to consider that maybe these billions of dollars help fund projects where, as is so often the case, people do things because they can, without thinking whether or not they should. The US has declared it has biological weapons capabilities, this is irrefutable, so how do said Biologicals occur?. do they harvest the common cold, and pop it in an ICBM, and say "this country will rue the due it messed with America", or do they develop something in the lab, that has the potential to wipe out whole towns?.

    Building on that idea again, is it also foolish to assume that all wars in the history of man, have been fought in the stereotypical "guns and tanks on foreign soil" way, or is it possible that govt's have learned that the publics disdain for open warfare, would make ridiculous efforts like America in Iraq / Afghanistan, a bad political move, so they wage war in a more subtle, and undetectable way?.

You obviously have a set of values that you base your opinion on, I have a differing set of beliefs, based on my years of research in this field, and other ones similar to it. It would be beneficial for the sake of discussion, that we do not have to resort to character assassinations to express these differing opinions, and then maybe we leave ourselves open to learn from each other, rather than just repeating the very first online argument, that has been photocopied every minute of every day since the creation of the interwebz as we know them?.

:)

TL;DR

"Gene-splicing or something"
Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: Pigdog on November 12, 2014, 11:49:26 am
You're familiar with the term Biological Warfare?. People often confuse it with Chemical Warfare, which is an entirely different beast. I think it is foolish to assume that all of the funds in the military budget of a fine upstanding country like America, only go to developing guns, and ammunition. It is not a big stretch of a persons thought process,  to consider that maybe these billions of dollars help fund projects where, as is so often the case, people do things because they can, without thinking whether or not they should. The US has declared it has biological weapons capabilities, this is irrefutable, so how do said Biologicals occur?. do they harvest the common cold, and pop it in an ICBM, and say "this country will rue the due it messed with America", or do they develop something in the lab, that has the potential to wipe out whole towns?.

    Building on that idea again, is it also foolish to assume that all wars in the history of man, have been fought in the stereotypical "guns and tanks on foreign soil" way, or is it possible that govt's have learned that the publics disdain for open warfare, would make ridiculous efforts like America in Iraq / Afghanistan, a bad political move, so they wage war in a more subtle, and undetectable way?.

You obviously have a set of values that you base your opinion on, I have a differing set of beliefs, based on my years of research in this field, and other ones similar to it. It would be beneficial for the sake of discussion, that we do not have to resort to character assassinations to express these differing opinions, and then maybe we leave ourselves open to learn from each other, rather than just repeating the very first online argument, that has been photocopied every minute of every day since the creation of the interwebz as we know them?.

:)



the stand stephen king
Good book to read If you want to feel paranoid about the ebola outbreak  ;D
Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: kruz on November 12, 2014, 07:15:12 pm
Hehe, I haven't actually read any Stephen King, or have much time for that whole genre, I like David Eddings work, The Belgariad, and the Mallorean series are super duper mega fantastic wow.

What books do you like Pigdog?
Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: Lias on November 12, 2014, 07:57:27 pm
I like David Eddings work, The Belgariad, and the Mallorean series are super duper mega fantastic wow.

Eddings rocks.
Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: kruz on November 12, 2014, 08:20:12 pm
I just found audio books of the Belgariad !!. I am in heaven.
Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on November 13, 2014, 05:44:53 am
I also like David Eddings.
Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: Retardobot on November 13, 2014, 11:41:50 am
I love lamp.
Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: pop on November 19, 2014, 12:22:38 am
Don't eat monkeys, just starve and die.
Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on November 19, 2014, 11:55:00 am
Don't eat monkeys, just starve and die.

In western Africa, monkeys eat you!

Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: Xsannz on November 19, 2014, 12:08:21 pm
TIA...   
Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: Lias on November 19, 2014, 02:35:11 pm
(http://news2.onlinenigeria.com/thumbnail.php?file=images/goat_sex_450258544.jpeg&size=article_large)
Title: Re: how did ebola start
Post by: Xsannz on November 19, 2014, 06:57:00 pm
Monkey see Monkey do
Title: Fruit Bats?
Post by: Tiwaking! on November 20, 2014, 05:23:46 pm
I was under the impression Ebola came from fruit bats. The media has lied to me once again
John Oliver's Ebola Letter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHT8-SalX_4#noexternalembed-ws)
Title: Ebola - just dont do it
Post by: Tiwaking! on December 21, 2014, 04:33:14 pm
Please be aware that ebola is bad, but not as deadly as everyone says it is. Without medical help you've got about a 50% chance of surviving.


50% survival rate sounds pretty deadly to me.
The only way to catch Ebola is from someone or something that has Ebola
The Ebola Virus Explained — How Your Body Fights For Survival (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRv19gkZ4E0#ws)