Is this the simplest political decision so far this year?

[Codex]

I bet they can't even lift

[Tandoori]

The spelling is reflective of a low English literacy level, probably due to poor education; not a lack of intelligence. The content of the signs however...

[varkk]

The spelling is reflective of a low English literacy level, probably due to poor education; not a lack of intelligence. The content of the signs however...

I would be willing to bet that their views are highly influenced by the English translation of a book which they read and want everyone to read and study/learn from. So therefore no excuse for poor spelling and grammar.

[Codex]

I would be willing to bet that their views are highly influenced by the English translation of a book which they read and want everyone to read and study/learn from. So therefore no excuse for poor spelling and grammar.

The bible? Isn't that just some empty shell people quote in fights like wikipedia?

[Craigor]

Marriage is only for humane beings....
Isn't beating your kids and "smashing you bro" classed as "inhumane"

I put a stereotype in your stereotype with a little bit of stereotype.

[Tandoori]

I would be willing to bet that their views are highly influenced by the English translation of a book which they read and want everyone to read and study/learn from. So therefore no excuse for poor spelling and grammar.

I disagree because I speculate that their church probably employs a more oral / aural method to spread their views.

[The Demon Lord]

I disagree because I speculate that their church probably employs a more oral / aural method to spread their views.

its highly disgusting how many Christians, especially those that get on their high horses about the Bible vs Anything - haven't read the bible cover to cover. and then those that have read more than 1 translation.

(because Ancient Arabic doesn't always translate nicely to english)

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

(because Ancient Arabic doesn't always translate nicely to english)

How well does it translate into Klingon?

Find out for yourself!
http://www.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/Klingon/mark.new.html

[Bounty Hunter]

Oh look, religion, don't we have a thread for this?

[BerG]

According to the guy on the right, all MP's support gay and lesbis.

Thats fantastic news.

[[Paranoid]^]

Something like 80%+ of under 35s support Gay Marriage, which is what the poll here seems to be showing almost exactly.

Seems like a basic human right, and certainly something we will consider a basic human right in the future.

[Craigor]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10868100

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

Awesome news

[The Demon Lord]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10868100

So when is the big day?

[benlav]

wtf is the difference between civil union and marriage? It might be really obvious, but in all the debate and talk on tv, no one has even bothered to explain the difference. I personally couldnt care less, doens't bother me the slightlest. My brother is gay and all power to him. The ONLY issue I have, and I still have yet to make a decision is on gay adoption. I have no issues with man/man women/women adopting a kid or question their parenting abilities. nothing of the like. My only issue is that kids are c**ts at school. My mother has a minor disability and I was teased for it to no end, resulted in many a punch ups (at primary school). Nothing through intermediate or high school. Still, that is my issue, never said I'd vote against that or gay marriage.

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

Marriage sounds much more romantic then 'civil union'.

And husband/wife sounds better then 'civil union partner'


I think same-sex couples deserve the same romantic terms that apply to opposite-sex couples.

[The Demon Lord]

wtf is the difference between civil union and marriage?

Am pretty sure that the Legal rights and entitlements are the same but it more about the principle/equality (Same sex couples could only civil union, whereas heterosexual couples can marry or have a civil union)

[benlav]

I certainly hope there is more to it than that. There are a lot of people hours being consumed in Parliament for the sake of a name change....

[The Demon Lord]

I certainly hope there is more to it than that. There are a lot of people hours being consumed in Parliament for the sake of a name change....

I could be wrong here - but I believe that it is about affording the gay community the same rights as the non-gay community. While there is a difference in status between the 2 groups - there is discrimination and in-equality

[benlav]

I could be wrong here - but I believe that it is about affording the gay community the same rights as the non-gay community. While there is a difference in status between the 2 groups - there is discrimination and in-equality

I always thought marriage was a religious thing.

[The Demon Lord]

I always thought marriage was a religious thing.

That was one of the arguements against Gay Marriage - since Marriage was a religous institution, it wasn't subject to intepretation. My view however is that while marriage may have started as a religous institution (and there are grounds to argue whether it is) it is now a legal concept - thus is open to change/intepretation.

[benlav]

yeah, well im not against it. I won't go down the street collecting signatures in its support but it doesnt bother me. To be honest im sick of hearing about it. Brings me back to the days of the waterfront statium and the media storm over that.

[Tandoori]

The release of the Select Committee Report has resulted in good news for me...



I figure it's a pretty safe investment, unless the government delays the second reading I think this should be wrapped up before the end of the year.

[benlav]

The release of the Select Committee Report has resulted in good news for me...



I figure it's a pretty safe investment, unless the government delays the second reading I think this should be wrapped up before the end of the year.

Going off on a tangent here, but stocks? At best they are derivatives, at worst it is a bet !

[Tandoori]

Going off on a tangent here, but stocks? At best they are derivatives, at worst it is a bet !

Pretty much betting, certainly not 'stocks'. I think the clearing-house means that the dynamic is a bit different to say the 'TAB', because you aren't always going to have a willing seller with these futures.