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Games => First-Person Shooter => Battlefield => Topic started by: Matt on July 18, 2012, 03:18:01 am
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http://www.medalofhonor.com/en_GB/blog/2012/07/fire-team-multiplayer-developer-commentary
As for buying MoH to get early beta access, keep in mind MoH buyers this time around only got it 1 day before it was full open beta(and watch the gameplay video..)
I guess the upside is by the time it comes around in 2013 (in line with next gen consoles?) It will have been in development for atleast 2 years and they will have hopefully learned from BF3's shortcomings.
Thoughts?
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Too soon
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Why would they have learned from BF3's short comings? EA is toting its deployment as a golden success.
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and they will have hopefully learned from BF3's shortcomings.
Thoughts?
lol gamer logic....always thinking the next one will be better, let the hype and disappointment cycle continue.
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Why would they have learned from BF3's short comings? EA is toting its deployment as a golden success.
Indeed the more dumbed down and consolified a game is the more units it sells, the lessons they are learning are not what Matt thinks.
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BOOOO
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lol gamer logic....always thinking the next one will be better, let the hype and disappointment cycle continue.
^^^ this guy speaks the truth
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I bet I'll still buy it *hangs head in shame
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I bet I'll still buy it *hangs head in shame
I will be joining you.... as will most of the "I won't be buying it because of (insert excuse about EA being whores or not until the fix BFBC2 first etc....)" crowd :p
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'Warfighter' - fail.
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lol gamer logic....always thinking the next one will be better, let the hype and disappointment cycle continue.
The thing is there's no reason why it can't, bring UI dev back in-house and have the voip product built into the game (rather than licensed for battlelog use only), things that can't be done with the current game without paying out a few million first that would be a pretty significant change in how the games flow. Heck if you automated party joining in Battlelog to match up squads atleast that's better than nothing.
As for dumbing the game down for/mass appeal, sure especially if they are releasing on the console user-bases. If you are outselling PC 4:1 for past titles then you focus on that larger user-base, you bank on the safe option when development costs 10's of millions. What are some examples of recent AAA games not "consolified", except arma?
Yes I'm going to drink the BF4 Kool-Aid, had my value from BF3 already despite some of the elements it lacks.
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What are some examples of recent AAA games not "consolified", except arma?
I think that is part of the problem. They are taking the games that weren't "consolified" and making them so, Battlefield was one of them. It's ruining what were great series for many.
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Where's the 2143? I wanna stomp on shit.
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Hiya sloth/ wandy how's tricks?
Sigh keep saying this realign bf2 = gold..
Keep it simple 2142 - crap
Bbc2 - crap
Bf3 - average , to many perks , upgrades etc etc
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If any one of the following are missing, I'm not buying:
1) Voip
2) Mods
3) Battle Recorder
And we all know there won't be mod support, so a pretty much guaranteed no buy here.
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Hiya sloth/ wandy how's tricks?
Sigh keep saying this realign bf2 = gold..
Keep it simple 2142 - crap
Bbc2 - crap
Bf3 - average , to many perks , upgrades etc etc
I actually enjoyed BFBC2... it had no suppression so your gun actually worked when you wanted it to. It also had no OP jets or choppers, because you had the AT4.
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Yeah, BF3 is slightly shitter than BC2 in most respects, except for map design tbh.
2142 missed out a lot on the demographic that like to touch themselves while looking at pictures of Barrets, but removing it a step from reality did genuinely improve the balance of the game.
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Glad i didn't buy premium. Looks like i won't be buying ea games for a long time to come.
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I actually enjoyed BFBC2... it had no suppression so your gun actually worked when you wanted it to. It also had no OP jets or choppers, because you had the AT4.
I agree with you Bruce. BFBC2 despite some very annoying things was actually not to bad to play. Raged harder in BF3 than pretty much any other game other than COD I've played. Pitty OGA didn't stick around for a bit longer in BC2 TBH.
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I'm pretty sure when BF2 came out we were like:
"Lets hope they learned from the mistakes of Battlefield 1942!", been pretty downhill since then really.
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As for dumbing the game down for/mass appeal, sure especially if they are releasing on the console user-bases. If you are outselling PC 4:1 for past titles then you focus on that larger user-base, you bank on the safe option when development costs 10's of millions. What are some examples of recent AAA games not "consolified", except arma?
Exactly, so why do you think BF4 is going to be better? they moved BF to consoles and found out they can sell a truck load more titles.
So guess who is going to be the sole target next time?
It's not about EA pissing us off by being lazy etc its about economics and economics suggests PC players aren't worth the time or effort when you could be selling more units to xbox players.
The BF series is now a second class game for me, I only buy it if it's cheap.
I brought BC2 for like $15 on some steam sale and imported Bf3 for half price which meant I had to wait 1-2 weeks after release for shipping which didn't matter because I only played for a week.
Next time I won't be making any effort.
I'll continue to buy niche stuff like Arma3 and RO
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Hiya sloth/ wandy how's tricks?
Sigh keep saying this realign bf2 = gold..
Keep it simple 2142 - crap
Bbc2 - crap
Bf3 - average , to many perks , upgrades etc etc
Got to disagree
2142 is the best game ever released in the BF series.
BC2 wasn't perfect but I have nearly 1500 hours paying it versus 140ish in BF3 which I think says a lot.
Personally I think BF3 is a fail because it's too much like BF2 and not enough like 2142 and BC2.
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I hate everything you stand for.
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Got to disagree
2142 is the best game ever released in the BF series.
BC2 wasn't perfect but I have nearly 1500 hours paying it versus 140ish in BF3 which I think says a lot.
Personally I think BF3 is a fail because it's too much like BF2 and not enough like 2142 and BC2.
LOL Wat, Are you serious?
BF3 is nothing like BF2. 2142 was closer... let me guess Titan mode all the way aye?
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bf2 was epic bf2142 was ok bfbc2 was ok as well bf3 is NOTHING like bf2
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I can just imagine the future of battlefield if we extrapolate the 'progress' they made from BF2 --> BF3:
BF4!!! New Features:- No squads - No need to worry about pesky squadmates again!
- No teams - Players with highest K/D now win!
- Customizable camouflage for your combat-knife - download 50 great additional camouflage options for your knife for only $19.99 each!
- Regenerating ammo - No more dependence on others!
- No classes - Now have the option of having both your favorite sniper rifle and your favorite RPG
- Kill-locater - New in Battlefield 4! Reveals the exact real-time position of the player who killed you on minimap and HUD. The ultimate payback!!!!
- Great maps - Play on the default map 'Operation choke-point' or if you want more variety download new maps for only $59.00 US per map!
- Downloadable expansions - Coming up: Back to Metro, Return to Tehran Highway, Operation M320 spam.
- MOAR dogtags!! - Because you can NEVER have enough dog-tags!!!!!!
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Glad i didn't buy premium. Looks like i won't be buying ea games for a long time to come.
ngaf cos one post dont mean shit .....
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^^ long time viewer first time poster :D
Having played the whole series there have been some good improvements and a lot of bad. as each one has come out everyone has bitched and complained, BF2 was one of the worst and everyone saying they would never go from Vietnam to it... strangely it ended up being the all time best of the lot for comp and Pub play... perhaps. just perhaps the next one will think about comp play, Strangely it was also the one where you had to pray for hit reg and 1 out of 10 games it actually worked... I will buy it just to find out. I wont rage quit and sell my rig this time though cause thats just been very expensive lol
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ill wait for you lot to play it and wait for the reviews. not going to rush and buy it. if the old boy is pleased then hell froze over and they made all the improvements required to make it epic
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Waiting for others to buy it won't really help fairy.
During the first week of release the reviews will be all praise because everyone has been hyping themselves up for over a year their brains can't comprehend anything being bad yet.
1 month later some people will start complaining but others will tell them they just aren't playing it right.
3 months later everyone will unanimously say the game was shit.
Happens everytime.
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I just hope they don't dumb the game down any more! The team-aspect of all the previous BF games is missing in BF3 and I think lack of in-game VOIP is mainly to blame. If BF3 had a working VOIP, non-regenerating health/vehicles and a few better maps then I would call it 'a good game'. I still enjoy BF3 but it doesn't compare to the past BF titles and for me personally (flame away!) I enjoyed 2142 the most as (like Matt said) it was so well balanced and the teamwork was there.
I'll probably give BF4 a shot but if the series goes downhill any more then I'm sadly I think my BF days will be over.
Also, bring back the commander FFS! :)
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...then hell froze over ...
why must i be the one to freeze over?! why cant nos or mike freeze over for a change? :D
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I can just imagine the future of battlefield if we extrapolate the 'progress' they made from BF2 --> BF3:
BF4!!! New Features:- No squads - No need to worry about pesky squadmates again!
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it already feels like that when you don't have voip. Spamming 'Q' on a support class in your squad to drop ammo, then you use the comma rose, then you have to stop and type it out in squad chat, then you have to start shooting at them and jump up and down in front of them. That's when they finally type "Stop blocking my view"
FU*K!!!! give me some ammo you useless piece of sh*t!
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^^ shit that made me LOL. so true.
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You know what I think?
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and before you know it battlefield 4 premium with gold ak's. user's get day1 access to medal of honor shitstorm beta
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So this post is up on reddit, Crash is one of Dices community managers.
http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield3/comments/wpzyo/battlefield_4_beta_official_information/
What is most interesting is the last edit and also the top comment.
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^ This reminds me of when they said they were developing BF3 for PC and porting it to console..............*insert tui ad*
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well apart from all the haters - I like BF3 - yes it has some rage-tastic moments and yes it is a grind to get all those unlocks (especially when I only use about 3-4 on a regular basis) but its still fun.
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So this post is up on reddit, Crash is one of Dices community managers.
[url]http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield3/comments/wpzyo/battlefield_4_beta_official_information/[/url]
What is most interesting is the last edit and also the top comment.
That is nothing new unfortunately.
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learnt my lesson from bf3.. do not want. The franchise is dead to me ;(
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Dead horse beating, shame on you EA
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It will be interesting to see what 'lessons' EA has learned, and i certainly won't be holding my breath for a return to a BF2 style of gameplay.
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^^ You will never see that return, BF2 is old school. you never roll the clock back. especially that far. Time change and so do the games, Trick is to roll with it or get old.... I(f you want a game thats exactly like BF2 the solution is simple. go play BF2 that game has already been made.
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Still, all they have to do is remake BF2 using the FB2 engine, a bunch of maps and we'd all be amped as fuck.
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Back to Karkand doesn't count
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They did... BF3 was a fail attempt at remaking BF2 using the new engine. well not so fail actually. it uses the new engine and all the new toys. map design and some stupid shit that would be good if you could turn it off for comps and scrims would make it a hell of a lot better, and big maps where all the bases aren't just piled into the middle of it.
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^ This reminds me of when they said they were developing BF3 for PC and porting it to console..............*insert tui ad*
Yea, reading through the comments after I posted that made me lol. Such non-committal comments from the Dice fellow, and a whole lot of "We have taken note of your feedback" and "Hopefully we can do this". We shall see in time, certainly will not be getting my hopes up, or making a pre-order. Besides, in the end, Modern Military Shooters are so over done that I don't if I can be bothered with another.
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MadMike;1494698']They did... BF3 was a fail attempt at remaking BF2 using the new engine. well not so fail actually. it uses the new engine and all the new toys. map design and some stupid shit that would be good if you could turn it off for comps and scrims would make it a hell of a lot better, and big maps where all the bases aren't just piled into the middle of it.
So they did try to remake BF2, but with different everything.
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Pretty much :D
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Bring back tracer dart.
Meh, il buy it anyway.
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Bring back tracer dart.
Meh, il buy it anyway.
Agreed!
Tracer and M1 Garand. Come at me.
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Bring back tracer dart.
Meh, il buy it anyway.
Was so much better when it was fast, became near impossible to dart air vehicles after the last few patches
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Was so much better when it was fast, became near impossible to dart air vehicles after the last few patches
Ahhh but how sweet was it when you got one and nailed them with a rocket afterwards!
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Also, Quads and Jetski's........messing about doing jumps, BF3 let us down here.
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I remember how excited I was about BF3, finally! I thought, no more half assed bfbc2. Except it arrived, and was less of a game than BFBC2, i remained stunned for a while. But now that BF4 is announced I think my BF expectations are inline with reality I'll use my 3d card for bitcoin mining.
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Just played BF1942 against 30 bots. El Alamein. Good times
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I can't get any of the old BF series to play on my newer systems :( Vietnam on is all I can play. want to go play Coral sea and was highly disappoint.
When did BF3 become almost 20gig to download and reinstall ? its like WTF.
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Scanned that post for 6 seconds and couldn't see the words "day one."
Not interested.
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Ahhh but how sweet was it when you got one and nailed them with a rocket afterwards!
why bother you had the AT4 which sent it crashing to the ground. That was awesome.
Or if it was slightly damaged and had a full crew you cashed in huge because it blew up giving you the jackpot in points.
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Nah, AT4 weren't no thing if you were a good pilot (that's me btw :>)
Don't know why they took out wire guided missile and put in the noob-crutch Javelin :/
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they took out wire guided missile and put in the noob-crutch Javelin :/
THIS! Javelin is the single biggest fuck-up of the whole game for me.
Especially when for the first few Months it was bugged so you couldn't avoid or hear a tone. It's just a no-fun mindless dickslap lock on without a counter. Hey, lets chuck a soflam in there so people can point it at vehicle spawns or continuous tone aircraft! OH SUCH FUN FOR THE HANDICAPPED.
They nailed that aspect with BC2, the dart was a fun and kept you moving in the heli.
Apart from that I have no major in-game gripes with BF3, I had a blast for the first Month or so, it's more how the balance, lack of bug fixes and patching and then the intelligence insulting Premium bullshit was moneygrabbingly dropped.
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Nah, AT4 weren't no thing if you were a good pilot (that's me btw :>)
Don't know why they took out wire guided missile and put in the noob-crutch Javelin :/
bro that's crazy talk. most good pilots would sit way off the flag they are attacking. a good AT4 could take them out.
I spent some time and googled this for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZopawHZvYU
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^^That guys a bit of a freak of nature no? I can't judge distance / direction to shoot like that, wish that I could.
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bro that's crazy talk. most good pilots would sit way off the flag they are attacking. a good AT4 could take them out.
I spent some time and googled this for you
I dunno, with a decent pilot and a gunner in comms it'll go at least 1:1, in my experience more towards the heli.
The AT4 wasn't terribly hard to see coming as long as you were smart about it. I'd back off a bit if there was someone decent with an AT4, and if they're really good it becomes a bit of a game as to what evasion will work (generally drop fast and dip to one side is enough), but yeah, the pilots in that video were pretty arse. Definitely more AT4ers RQed than I did.
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Theres another vid floating round as well wit guys in attack chopper tat could fly... they didn't stand a chance either. AT4 was fun times with choppers. Most pilots wouldn't even know where they where coming from and if you had a few of you hunting the heli from different parts of the map the heli's were pretty screwed.
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BC2 - Fun times
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Yeah BF3 Kinda makes me miss it TBH :D
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Why are we stuck in the modern shooter genre! Bring back the good variety of weaponry you have with World war 2 or even World War 1. It also removes the aircraft advantage a little as they move more slowly.
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MadMike;1495045']Theres another vid floating round as well wit guys in attack chopper tat could fly... they didn't stand a chance either. AT4 was fun times with choppers. Most pilots wouldn't even know where they where coming from and if you had a few of you hunting the heli from different parts of the map the heli's were pretty screwed.
I guess I didn't really play conquest, so didn't really do attack choppers. Maybe rush made it easier to know where people were going to be attacking from.
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Sick of modern combat now. Unless there is some compelling reason to get it (mod support, dedicated servers software for the public) I won't even consider it unless it's Battlefield 194(4) or 214(4).
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AT4 was awesome and they should bring it back and that dudes not a freak of nature its all a matter of leading the target like the TOW on bfbc2 once you got the hang of it it was easy
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I guess I didn't really play conquest, so didn't really do attack choppers. Maybe rush made it easier to know where people were going to be attacking from.
Yeah it did. did for everything really. Rush new new they were coming from X direction. Conq was from anywhere :D
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Why are we stuck in the modern shooter genre! Bring back the good variety of weaponry you have with World war 2 or even World War 1. It also removes the aircraft advantage a little as they move more slowly.
if I had 2 wishes:
First Person Warhammer 40 K shooter (Space marines, Terminator Armour, Storm Bolters and Force Weapons - Fuck yeah!)
and a Medieval FPS (snipers would be bow and Crossbowmen - Assault would be Knights, for Tanks you would have Horses, Engineers would be seige specialists and Medics/Support would be Priests)
someone try and tell me that wouldn't be awesome
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Why are we stuck in the modern shooter genre! Bring back the good variety of weaponry you have with World war 2 or even World War 1. It also removes the aircraft advantage a little as they move more slowly.
not really - i suspect that even putting solidsnake in a WW1 plane will make players rage quit and complain about how the planes are too overpowered
also ww1 maps would just be two trenches 30 - 50 metres away - and everyone will be snipers
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if I had 2 wishes:
First Person Warhammer 40 K shooter (Space marines, Terminator Armour, Storm Bolters and Force Weapons - Fuck yeah!)
and a Medieval FPS (snipers would be bow and Crossbowmen - Assault would be Knights, for Tanks you would have Horses, Engineers would be seige specialists and Medics/Support would be Priests)
someone try and tell me that wouldn't be awesome
mount & blade http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecNHq4464PI
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Nah, AT4 weren't no thing if you were a good pilot (that's me btw :>)
Don't know why they took out wire guided missile and put in the noob-crutch Javelin :/
>get in tank > instant lock-on tone from enemy SOFLAM-JAV squad > tank explodes 4 secs later > quit game and return to earlier fun versions of the BF series
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I wish Mount & Blade was more like Age of Empires....
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bf2 release = 1942 better
2142 release = 1942, bf2 better
bad company 2 released = 1942, bf2, 2142 better + console port wtffff???
bf3 released = 1942, bf2, 2142, BC2 better
you guys are predictable as
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You appear to have pretty good predictive powers for a physical games distributor :>
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MW2 release = MW1 better
MW3 release = MW1/MW2 better
hmm maybe its the game industry thats predictable.
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^^what he said
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You guys are like a bunch of old men/women sitting around going on about the old days were sooo much better.....
Learn to adapt, or die.
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Most people don't like change but couple that with changing/removing the features that people LOVE and that equals hate.
Honestly they have to be fucking retarded to remove voip/commander mode and have small squads after bf2. Honestly, just god damn retarded.
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Most people don't like change but couple that with changing/removing the features that people LOVE and that equals hate.
Honestly they have to be $#@!ing retarded to remove voip/commander mode and have small squads after bf2. Honestly, just god damn retarded.
Exactly! What were they thinking removing the features that actually made BF unique and more appealing than other FPS's?! I can't fathom what they were thinking... or maybe I can (make game more COD-like?). I really do hope they re-introduce VOIP and commander back into BF4, but realistically I think the golden-days of battlefield are probably over - console won.
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Did the same "people" that made bf2 make bf3? I doubt it.
Bf4 will probably have most of the same people that made bf3.
That was a huge success and therefore they probably won't change much of anything. Just give it a new SP story & co-op missions and some new maps for mp.
It will be shit and dip-shits will still pre-order it.
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You guys are like a bunch of old men/women sitting around going on about the old days were sooo much better.....
Learn to adapt, or die.
Classic response.
Sure I'll adapt, by playing other games that aren't trying to make it big in the console market.
Enjoy Battlefield360
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Did the same "people" that made bf2 make bf3? I doubt it.
Bf4 will probably have most of the same people that made bf3.
That was a huge success and therefore they probably won't change much of anything. Just give it a new SP story & co-op missions and some new maps for mp.
It will be $#@! and dip-$#@!s will still pre-order it.
Yet you will still buy it, because in a world of mediocre fps titles it's still well above average
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No doubt...
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You appear to have pretty good predictive powers for a physical games distributor :>
I lolled. If GoG wants proof of which is better go check how long competitive ladders lasted for each title. That would certainly betray any jaded opinion.
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Yet you will still buy it, because in a world of mediocre fps titles it's still well above average
I stopped playing BF3 after 2 weeks. I certainly won't be buying BF4 unless it had some dramatic changes (which I'm 99% confident it won't). I wouldn't play a shit fps game just because its better than other shit fps games, I'd play something non-fps or not play games at all.
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amen sister
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I lolled. If GoG wants proof of which is better go check how long competitive ladders lasted for each title. That would certainly betray any jaded opinion.
no outside influences there.....
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bf2 release = 1942 better
2142 release = 1942, bf2 better
bad company 2 released = 1942, bf2, 2142 better + console port wtffff???
bf3 released = 1942, bf2, 2142, BC2 better
you guys are predictable as
BF2/1942/BF3/2142/BC2 for me.
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was mainly the mods that i liked the most but for nilla woulda been bf2 then bf42 didnt really get into 2142 and liked bc2 and bf3 was good for the first wee while and then they patched the shit outa it and it sucked
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BFV > BF42:FH > BFV:POE > BF42: DC > BF42 > BF2 > BC2 > 2142 > BF3
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bf3 wasnt as impressive as i was thinking, even the full game wont, its just all the countless things you could do with bf2 and not even half can be done in bf3.
Dont think therel ever bee a game to match bf2 but yeh its time to move on
this what i said when bf3 beta got released, but the fact is most will still buy bf4 though they say they wont now, wait for EA's bf4 trailers and everyone will be like 'wow' lols..
bf2 was legendary but dont think it can ever be be replaced with new games.
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Classic response.
Sure I'll adapt, by playing other games that aren't trying to make it big in the console market.
Enjoy Battlefield360
Is there such a thing?
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Not many these days... but I still buy stuff like ARMA, Starcraft, Mount & Blade and RO.
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BFV > BF42:FH > BFV:POE > BF42: DC > BF42 > BF2 > BC2 > 2142 > BF3
FH was defiantly my game of choice loved it
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BC2 > 2142 > BF3
C'mon, where is the love for 2142!! It has got to be the most well-balanced battlefield game ever! As an added bonus it also came with a working in-game VOIP system! ;)
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Infantry play without unlocks was great.
Vehicles were shit, unlocks were shit, titan mode was a disgrace.
Although maybe I should have put it before BC2
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Omnipotent jets were way better?
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BFV > BF42:FH > BFV:POE > BF42: DC > BF42 > BF2 > BC2 > 2142 > BF3
you've played a shit load of BF games. I can only go..
BF2 > > BC2 > > > > BF3 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2142
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Omnipotent jets were way better?
I wouldn't say way better hence why BF2 is so far down on my list, but in BF2 your best bet was to stay away from jet maps and then it was pretty fun.
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you've played a shit load of BF games. I can only go..
BF2 > > BC2 > > > > BF3 > > > > > > > > > > > > 2142
Well half of that list are mods but yes I've played pretty much every BF game including expansions and all Major mods made for BFV and BF42
I should have also added Eve of Destruction and BF2:POE which were both pretty good.
God I miss some of those kick ass mods.
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Omnipotent jets were way better?
Jets were fine in BF2 imo. They should be very powerful, and if both teams have a reasonable pilot in their jets it isn't in issue. Just like if only one team has good infantry the game will be dominated by one team, or a good chopper team on chopper only maps, or armour squads working together.
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Jets were fine in BF2 imo. They should be very powerful, and if both teams have a reasonable pilot in their jets it isn't in issue. Just like if only one team has good infantry the game will be dominated by one team, or a good chopper team on chopper only maps, or armour squads working together.
only in scrims (but I did have cripple on my team which made me feel safer on the ground)
But even in scrims you can get rare examples where airpower is so dominate. I do remember a close game between crex and plus on oman in the first round, But in the second crex pulled of a tank pixel shot at the start of the round to take out both jets, this ended up not allowing any of their jets into the air.
So the whole game was lost due to camping the runway with one jet allowing the other and chopper to stop them moving to attack flags. It was brutal listening to the match. (btw I miss that)
The only reason I put BC2 above BF3 is because of air power. Airpower has always been too powerful, you only have limited ways to take them out but they can destroy anything they want. At least with tanks you can AT them, mine, C4, jihad jeep. Jets can really only be taken out with another jet.
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BF2 was awesome, BC2 was terrible and BF3 is fantabulous.
This is all from a 1.6 P.o.V. =)
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BF3 is the best Battlefield in the series yet.
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BF3 is the best Battlefield in the series yet.
are you bored tonight? or just trolling?
just because 2142 gave you and sila a trip to thialand does NOT make it good
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^^ LOL.
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cant wait for bf4, i bet the unlocks are awesome. the more the better!
if it can incorporate a lens flare class id be so down for that.
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cant wait for bf4, i bet the unlocks are awesome. the more the better!
if it can incorporate a lens flare class id be so down for that.
bro thats the battlefield photographer class you get to look and get amongst it but sadly alls you can do is shoot people with a camera and get in the way :P
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I hope BF4 has more dust and other realistic things like blinking and getting something in your eye.
Whatever is needed to make it as hard as possible to see!
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BFV > BF42:FH > BFV:POE > BF42: DC > BF42 > BF2 > BC2 > 2142 > BF3
the hipster of battlefield
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very edgy
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I'm really into this new game but I doubt you've heard of it.
I mean you're into stuff like BF3 and MW3 right?
I'm not into that 'mainstream' stuff it's just too dumbed down for the masses you know.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/nva92v.jpg)
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the hipster of battlefield
Games are no different to music or movies, some are made to make money, some aren't. Some people prefer the output of something that isn't financially driven, as they definitely provide different results.
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I played 2142 once. It was ok.
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Games are no different to music or movies, some are made to make money, some aren't. Some people prefer the output of something that isn't financially driven, as they definitely provide different results.
i think you'll find that ALL games are made to make money, those that aren't are given away
same with music
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Games are no different to music or movies, some are made to make money, some aren't. Some people prefer the output of something that isn't financially driven, as they definitely provide different results.
I'm more inclined to say some games are made with a limited budget where dev's are able to make and add features to enhance the game and game play, where other's have a whole heap of money thrown at them, are told what "money making" features have to be incorporated and are expected to make a huge profit return for share holder's and financial backer's. If dev's from the first scenario make a great/popular game then they enter into the 2nd second category and the crap continues.
As for the way the BF series is going, Bf2 was released at the dawn of broadband in this country and some may argue it was the first fps to provide relatively stable ping and lag free game play not to mention at the time the only competition for the Multiplay experience was team deathmatch for the CoD series, hence the reason I will always have fond memories of it. there is nothing wrong with BF3 it's just the fact there is so much choice in multiplay fps shooters and ALOT more competition in the last 10yrs the market has been completely flooded with games some good some not so good, FPS in general can't hold my attention like they use to. as for the unlocks and other stuff incorporated into the last few installments, just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean its not popular. goes back to the shrek argument "i can't believe their up to shrek 4 the first was bad enough why make sequels?" believe it or not there are a huge amount of people that like unlocks and the crap along with shrek and they make a crap ton of money, if they didn't they simply wouldn't do it.
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only in scrims (but I did have cripple on my team which made me feel safer on the ground)
But even in scrims you can get rare examples where airpower is so dominate. I do remember a close game between crex and plus on oman in the first round, But in the second crex pulled of a tank pixel shot at the start of the round to take out both jets, this ended up not allowing any of their jets into the air.
So the whole game was lost due to camping the runway with one jet allowing the other and chopper to stop them moving to attack flags. It was brutal listening to the match. (btw I miss that)
The only reason I put BC2 above BF3 is because of air power. Airpower has always been too powerful, you only have limited ways to take them out but they can destroy anything they want. At least with tanks you can AT them, mine, C4, jihad jeep. Jets can really only be taken out with another jet.
Pixel shots in BF2 were cool.....wake island Tank to carrier pixel shot f22 or chopper down...lol pissed so many people off.
Has any one tried anything similar in bf3....might be a bit harder I suspect
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i think you'll find that ALL games are made to make money, those that aren't are given away
same with music
I think you'll find you missed my point completely then. How much does a mod such as POE cost?
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just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean its not popular. goes back to the shrek argument "i can't believe their up to shrek 4 the first was bad enough why make sequels?" believe it or not there are a huge amount of people that like unlocks and the crap along with shrek and they make a crap ton of money, if they didn't they simply wouldn't do it.
I don't like Justin Bieber's music either, but its incredibly popular. If Eric Clapton's next album was indistinguishable from a Justin Bieber album, I'd be disappointed too.
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I think you'll find you missed my point completely then. How much does a mod such as POE cost?
mod....not a game
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I don't like Justin Bieber's music either, but its incredibly popular. If Eric Clapton's next album was indistinguishable from a Justin Bieber album, I'd be disappointed too.
Well here is 2 different aspect's, you are Comparing Eric Clapton to Justin Beiber, and i'll be inclined to agree. But if Clapton was BF and Beiber was [insert game] the argument stands that battlefield gameplay is still uniquely battlefield (although other games are starting to come out with similar formats), how ever if one was to say Eric Clapton album indistinguishable from other Eric Clapton albums, well now we're coming into game franchise material across the board.
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mod....not a game
A mod is a game? Its a modification of an existing game, to make a new game. Day Z for example, is a game in itself, created by modifying Arma 2.
Every source game is simply a "mod" of the source engine is it not? Do these not count as games either? Or 2142, essentially a mod of BF2, the only difference being it cost money compared to something like PoE.
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Of course a mod is a game what a ridiculous thing to say.
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A mod is a game? Its a modification of an existing game, to make a new game. Day Z for example, is a game in itself, created by modifying Arma 2.
Every source game is simply a "mod" of the source engine is it not? Do these not count as games either? Or 2142, essentially a mod of BF2, the only difference being it cost money compared to something like PoE.
sigh, fine
game = something made for sale
mod = modification of commercial game, usually by groups of talented amateurs, ether as a labour of love, or to get their foot in the industry.
arma II you have to buy, dayz is free (at least for now)
links back to the hipster comment, game/band is only cool while I like and no one else does, or until it becomes profitable. I was into it when it was underground, never as good as their original stuff, sellouts etc etc etc
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Well here is 2 different aspect's, you are Comparing Eric Clapton to Justin Beiber, and i'll be inclined to agree. But if Clapton was BF and Beiber was [insert game] the argument stands that battlefield gameplay is still uniquely battlefield (although other games are starting to come out with similar formats), how ever if one was to say Eric Clapton album indistinguishable from other Eric Clapton albums, well now we're coming into game franchise material across the board.
BF isn't like CoD in that aspect yet, every BF game is distinguishable from the previous installments.
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sigh, fine
game = something made for sale
mod = modification of commercial game, usually by groups of talented amateurs, ether as a labour of love, or to get their foot in the industry.
arma II you have to buy, dayz is free (at least for now)
links back to the hipster comment, game/band is only cool while I like and no one else does, or until it becomes profitable. I was into it when it was underground, never as good as their original stuff, sellouts etc etc etc
Bullshit it does.
BF42 and BFV and their mods were really popular in their time. Just because you weren't around doesn't mean it was underground.
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links back to the hipster comment, game/band is only cool while I like and no one else does, or until it becomes profitable. I was into it when it was underground, never as good as their original stuff, sellouts etc etc etc
Or perhaps game made as labour of love happens to result in offering a more enjoyable gameplay experience for someone than a game that was made to make money? Does that just sound too ridiculous in your mind?
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IMO because dev teams were smaller back 7 or so years ago more risks could be taken and a bigger selection of game studios could complete in the same Genre.
Budgets are now so high that only a few select studios can complete in the mainstream FPS market so the diversity is taking a hit.
Battlefield can't afford to cater their games towards me, they need console players to get a big enough return on investment.
The direction of the more recent installments of BF are obviously different to those of old so don't give me this "can't change with the times"/"you only liked it when it wasn't popular" crap.
I feel I understand the reasons for it and don't really blame them but that doesn't mean I support where they are going.
I'm mostly just sad that the majority don't seem to what the type of Multiplier experiences I do, if a team with the budget of CoD put all that effort into making a in-depth, large scale vehicular combat multiplier experience what they could achieve with the current broadband speeds and computer power on PC would dwarf everything we have seen before. Instead all the investment in gaming is going toward providing a shit ton of art assets and in game cgi sequences to make it feel movie like and the technology is getting restricted because the control scheme has to work on a console controller and the game world has to run on 512MB of RAM and a relatively weak processor.
I personally don't give a shit about scripted sequences, story or some sort of character development. I prefer being given a rich game world with a vast array of gameplay options and then spawning as some nameless solider on the red team and being told to defeat the blue team.
And that's exactly what BF42 was when it first came out, there was noway that game was going to be able to be ported to the console at that time, the controls wouldn't have worked the terrain engine wouldn't have run and there was no chance of having at minimum 32 players.
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Bullshit it does.
BF42 and BFV and their mods were really popular in their time. Just because you weren't around doesn't mean it was underground.
I was around& played them (forgotten hope especially), just not involved in the community/competition/clan scene.
Or perhaps game made as labour of love happens to result in offering a more enjoyable gameplay experience for someone than a game that was made to make money? Does that just sound too ridiculous in your mind?
I think it would be pretty naive to think that just because you're getting paid, you don't love what you do & want to see people enjoy it.
my point still stands, there are always people around, in any scene, that hate what they have, that refer backwards with such rose tinted glasses that it becomes ridiculous IMO. just so happens I find it a boring attitude to be around.
I had a great time....for a long time playing BF2, but I'm not blind to all the bullshit that I hated at the same time.
if you don't enjoy it, go off and do something else, it's exactly why I haven't been playing BF3 since mass effect came out...but I've come back to it, and I'm having fun.
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OT: do we have an 'era' for BF4 yet ? BTW AI-X2.0 > BF2 > BF3 > PoE2 > and whatever that nitro buggy on Kark mod was
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It'll surely be another modern military setting. Shooters need to go back to the older ways of cycling through era's i.e. WW2-Vietnam-Modern-Future. With the constant repetition of modern combat era, the genre is stagnated and successive games hardly add anything new, not that we didn't already know this. I imagine its just so much more cost effective to release what is effectively the previous title with some new maps and updated graphics.
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It'll surely be another modern military setting. Shooters need to go back to the older ways of cycling through era's i.e. WW2-Vietnam-Modern-Future. With the constant repetition of modern combat era, the genre is stagnated and successive games hardly add anything new, not that we didn't already know this. I imagine its just so much more cost effective to release what is effectively the previous title with some new maps and updated graphics.
Yeap and as long as they still sell, will continue to do so
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I liked BC2 Vietnam, because I wasn't stuck in streets and buildings. Sitting among rocks and hills that aren't destructible was different to everything being blown up around me. Era's aren't that important, look at 2142, greatest game ever made, and they didn't focus on it being ultra modern, (except the titan, given) but the game play was great, voip worked and squads had 6 players. All they need to do is get squad play to work ingame, with voip. Battlelog and 3rd party voip means you play with the same people all day every day.
But I'm weird...
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Bf2 was released at the dawn of broadband in this country and some may argue it was the first fps to provide relatively stable ping and lag free game play
Really? Who the fuck are those idiots then?
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So what's next?
We're already jaded and dissatisfied with the next BF3. It's about now ish that some slightly smaller developer announces a FPS that we hope will meet all our needs and more.
eg: ET:QW, wolfenstein... w/e it was called, shattered horizon, MoH (latest iteration), BC2, RO2HOS, brink, cs:go, etc.
I'm sure that this time there'll be a good game whose hype lasts for more than 2 hours past release.
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I think the dawn of broadband happened when Ranger bob first got it 3 or 4 years after everyone else.
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So what's next?
It will be ARMA3 for me but it's pretty niche but maybe Day Z's popularity will bring a bigger playerbase.
I'll only play it when I have a free weekend or something its not the type of game you just have a quick 30min play with,
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Really? Who the fuck are those idiots then?
I'm guessing you have memories of joining a server only to have major lag issues, which was often fixed by joining another server. Or playing for an hour or 2 before hitting lag spikes which was often fixed by resetting server's or router? completely forgetting that you could often go for days/weeks in a total lag free environment. Yet before bf2 everything was played on 56k modems and lag and high ping was pretty much a part of every day game play.
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So what's next?
We're already jaded and dissatisfied with the next BF3. It's about now ish that some slightly smaller developer announces a FPS that we hope will meet all our needs and more.
eg: ET:QW, wolfenstein... w/e it was called, shattered horizon, MoH (latest iteration), BC2, RO2HOS, brink, cs:go, etc.
I'm sure that this time there'll be a good game whose hype lasts for more than 2 hours past release.
Ravaged is looking pretty neat, but it remains to be seen if the community will support it. Then there's Planetside 2, which is looking pretty amazing.
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Whens PlanetSide 2 out? I'm totally keen for that.
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Im not sure, they're doing closed beta testing at the moment.
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Haven't read through this thread, so not sure what has been talked about.
A friend of mine has had a look at a beta for BF4 and told me.
Commander is back in as per bf2
Destructible building is in as per bad company 2
Naval battles is in as per 1942.
From what he has seen, it is step back in the right direction of a pc led game but time will tell
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Haven't read through this thread, so not sure what has been talked about.
A friend of mine has had a look at a beta for BF4 and told me.
Commander is back in as per bf2
Destructible building is in as per bad company 2
Naval battles is in as per 1942.
From what he has seen, it is step back in the right direction of a pc led game but time will tell
Empty promises - like it will be designed purely for PCs without any porting from a console and there will be a big focus on community and E Sports
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Haven't read through this thread, so not sure what has been talked about.
A friend of mine has had a look at a beta for BF4 and told me.
Commander is back in as per bf2
Destructible building is in as per bad company 2
Naval battles is in as per 1942.
From what he has seen, it is step back in the right direction of a pc led game but time will tell
That would be good if true.
Commander was fun to play.
Lying down in the mud, calling down arty strikes on the enemy.
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Hope they take those right steps, otherwise they are just shooting themselves in the feet. We don't need to please the CoD fanbase
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What's the significance of BC2 destructible buildings?
Did you know destructible buildings was a touted feature early on in BF42 development, then again in BF2?
As such I'd take promises so far with a grain of salt, I cant see EA wanting to go back to the PC gamer for nostalgia sake, console spin offs and top quality indy developers are all we have these days....oh and valve....for now....
actually valve have been up to fuck all for long enough now....
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What's the significance of BC2 destructible buildings?
Did you know destructible buildings was a touted feature early on in BF42 development, then again in BF2?
As such I'd take promises so far with a grain of salt, I cant see EA wanting to go back to the PC gamer for nostalgia sake, console spin offs and top quality indy developers are all we have these days....oh and valve....for now....
actually valve have been up to fuck all for long enough now....
BC2 destructable buildings were some of the most fun I had in gaming - its what prompted me to get out of my gaming duldrums and get into online Multiplayer.
Valve I think are trying to count to 3....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xb4iJFRS4Mw
http://www.shortandsweetreviews.co/2013/03/s-news-battlefield-4-screenshots-leaked.html?spref=tw
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There is blinding death sun in one of the screenshots....
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What's the significance of BC2 destructible buildings?
Did you know destructible buildings was a touted feature early on in BF42 development, then again in BF2?
As such I'd take promises so far with a grain of salt, I cant see EA wanting to go back to the PC gamer for nostalgia sake, console spin offs and top quality indy developers are all we have these days....oh and valve....for now....
actually valve have been up to fuck all for long enough now....
Some BF2 mods had destructible buildings, such as Project Reality. So it was possible, just they didn't bother.
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Empty promises - like it will be designed purely for PCs without any porting from a console and there will be a big focus on community and E Sports
I reckon there are three reasons to be positive about BF4:
1) They started developing BF4 pretty soon after BF3 and left a different DICE team to handle the DLC. My pick is that with a 2 year development cycle they couldn't add features into BF3 that people were demanding (eg spectator, commander) and they just packaged them up into the next dev cycle. It won't be revolutionary, but it will be better than a COD-style-map-pack-as-game-installment.
2) Frostbite is being used on many more EA games. So time spent developing the Frostbite engine (eg for better networking code or streaming and other esports stuff) is an investment that EA can reuse on other projects.
3) The new consoles are just around the corner (PS4 announced for Q4 2013), which should improve the console quality target (eg big 64p maps and shiny graphics aren't just for PCs any more). Imagine the sales if your game is the first 'Killer App' for the new console generation?
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17 Minutes of gameplay. Lookin' good!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8HVQXkeU8U&feature=player_embedded
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Call of Battlefield
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Call of Battlefield
Not sure if genuine, but...
(http://xbox720online.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/url1.jpg)
But hey, who cares about the single player?
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Not sure if genuine, but...
But hey, who cares about the single player?
Agreed, single player battlefield is just weird
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I liked the BF3 SP.
Watching the gameplay, it just looks like BF3 DLC.
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I second that Ret. I loved the SP Campaign, I'll even go as far to say I enjoyed most of the CoD campaigns. I honestly don't know why people bitch about SP in FPS games so much...
But yes, does just look like DLC. Oh well, just another game to play and I'm happy with that. :)
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Not sure if genuine, but...
([url]http://xbox720online.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/url1.jpg[/url])
But hey, who cares about the single player?
Is that a Green Beret or even better - a British Marine?!?!?
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17 Minutes of gameplay. Lookin' good!
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8HVQXkeU8U&feature=player_embedded[/url]
Call of Battle: Field Duty 4 ?
cool gfx and stuff, but no sign of tanks, jets..doubt MP will be fun, good for inf fans
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Call of Battle: Field Duty 4 ?
cool gfx and stuff, but no sign of tanks, jets..doubt MP will be fun, good for inf fans
But how often did you experience tanks in BF3 SP? MP won't lack any of the features from BF3, all they can do is expand on it really.
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I second that Ret. I loved the SP Campaign, I'll even go as far to say I enjoyed most of the CoD campaigns. I honestly don't know why people bitch about SP in FPS games so much...
this, though the battlefield 3 SP was a bit dull, and CoD black ops confused me so much i refuse to play the 2nd one....
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Hoping they can blend BC2 BF2 BF3 into the winning combination for this.
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Hoping they can blend BC2 BF2 BF3 into the winning combination for this.
and have a Squad Sunglasses perk so I can see what the fuck I am doing
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I just want teamwork back
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also. bring back tracer dart.
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also. bring back tracer dart.
Remove Javs and Stingers replace with Tracer-Dart,
Beef up TOW missle launchers and re-instate 50 Cal MG sites (they were so much fun in BC2 - but in BF3 not so much)
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Yeah, I'm gonna hit a jet with a tracer dart...
Keep stingers, make them lock differently to helis and jets, fuck the javelin and tracer darts, make people aim again.
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Yeah, I'm gonna hit a jet with a tracer dart...
Keep stingers, make them lock differently to helis and jets, fuck the javelin and tracer darts, make people aim again.
well you did have to aim with a tracer dart...
when you say make stingers lock differently to helis and jets - I am curious as to what you mean - care to elaborate?
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k6 for admin imo
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well you did have to aim with a tracer dart...
when you say make stingers lock differently to helis and jets - I am curious as to what you mean - care to elaborate?
As in make them effective against both, without being op. As they are now, they are barely useful vs jets, and ridiculous against helicopters. If the range (for instance) differed between the two, it would work a lot better.
And yeah, I find tracer darts less objectionable than javelins, but both are pretty lame. Good for taking out snipers though.
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k6 for admin imo
fuckyear! 2nd'd
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fuckyear! 2nd'd
thirded'ed
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As in make them effective against both, without being op. As they are now, they are barely useful vs jets, and ridiculous against helicopters. If the range (for instance) differed between the two, it would work a lot better.
And yeah, I find tracer darts less objectionable than javelins, but both are pretty lame. Good for taking out snipers though.
Stingers are super effective against jets atm - as they pretty much ignore ECMs - they can be dodged if you know the point of origin but if they hit - insta-disable and sometimes insta-kill.
Some of my main annoyances with stingers are the flight time seems to be infinite: if you ECM, and have the afterburners on to get out of dodge, then get insta-locked once the ECM wears off, I am still hooning away, 4-5 seconds later, the Missle Hits even though I should be well out of range.
Secondly is the apparent lock on range - but for example of Caspian border, many times I have been flying over the one of the bases, only to be locked on by someone standing at the Hilltop flag - Stinger is fired, I deploy ECM (which sometimes works, sometimes doesn't) missle hits - instant death, no chance to try and land and repair.
I personally think the BC2 system of rockets was more balanced - especially with the AT4s that required a fair amount of skill to use well or the TOWs
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Bring back tracers, I want Christmas trees
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bring back the ability for 3rd party developers to create mods and stuff
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"nah bro, we cant let people have mod tools for the frostbite engine, its far too complicated for you to understand" - Someone at EA.
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lol oh yeah thats right :P i forgot silly me :/
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I think EA have a point though, a lot of effort and time is required to make a mod and I don't think the community have it, though I see FH2 is still going, does anyone play?
It's EA's fault in part because they release games so close together....but they're a big scary company, they can sort of do what they like when they like, it's not their job to make sure a bunch of geeks have an evening hobby....play the game?
Bell and co what do you guys think having worked in the industry? would you do your job as a hobby?
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Doesn't take that much effort to make code modifications, changing variables and stuff isn't a big deal. The real issue is the amount of time needed to make new game assets these days.
The poly-count is just getting too high to make total modifications within a reasonable amount of time.
And yes most people in the industry would do it as a hobby since most of them did that before they got into it and many still fuck around making games during their weekends.
But I feel that these days you are going to need like 30 artists and a couple of programmers to make a mod.
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Call of Battle: Field Duty 4 ?
cool gfx and stuff, but no sign of tanks, jets..doubt MP will be fun, good for inf fans
5:14 i like the switch between red dot and iron sites ability.. two sites in 1 gun sound great...
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I want the drivable Sub so I can sink the carrier.....such fun.
Or c4 the sub and suicide the carrier.....lol
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5:14 i like the switch between red dot and iron sites ability.. two sites in 1 gun sound great...
Taking some ideas from other games, most notably the Arma series. I like it, adds that little extra something.
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Taking some ideas from other games, most notably the Arma series. I like it, adds that little extra something.
Or taking it from you know, real life.
SEALS use this.
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Or taking it from you know, real life.
SEALS use this.
This too I guess. :P
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[video]http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/t5gvnb/battlefield-4-3-ways-to-leave-call-of-duty-behind[/video]
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[video]http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/t5gvnb/battlefield-4-3-ways-to-leave-call-of-duty-behind[/video]
agree, agree and agree + LAN support, VOIP, commander and mods because shit will get old sooner rather than later. Cruising round in a FrostBite3 Notar would be epic
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BF42 single player was exactly how all battlefield single player should be.
did bf2 have a singleplayer component at all?
I'd actually say though I enjoyed the bad company single player more than CoD cause it was actual fun, not melodrama.
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Want BC3 or 2143 more than BF4 at this point
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Saw battlefield 4 pre order on origin today. Gives you Beta access, but seems crazy early to be asking for money.
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I was actually blown away by the graphics in the trailer. I know they won't be that good in MP.
Pre order = done
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BF4 will be eye candy heaven but some things will never change
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=guEkrrfDpZI
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I was actually blown away by the graphics in the trailer.
Pre order = done
BF4 will be eye candy heaven
I give up, fuck games.
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Why not just remake bf2 - another 5 yrs of gaming heaven.
Will have to get a comp .. Hey ya mcc / bell how's tricks ?
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I give up, fuck games.
CD/DVD cut your wee wee buddy ... would hurt lvl50+
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Want BC3 or 2143 more than BF4 at this point
This + squad VOIP
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Want BC3 or 2143 more than BF4 at this point
No point doing 2143 Planet Side 2 already has that era sown up tight imo, hell im sure even the bf style game play part is better as well.
+1 ditto id rather see bfbc3 come out first before bf4 does.
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This + squad VOIP
proximity voip should be in there as well, then again id happily settle for no ingame voip at all if dice could cut the heads off these responsible for bf3s voip and stick them on stakes outside their offices for all to see :welcoming:
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Battlelog VOIP was pointless, couldn't use it on a random public server and clans use their own system.
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proximity voip should be in there as well, then again id happily settle for no ingame voip at all if dice could cut the heads off these responsible for bf3s voip and stick them on stakes outside their offices for all to see :welcoming:
BF3 is a BC2 mod. If it wasn't in BC2, or was broken, it wasn't in BF3. They chose to remove the broken VOIP, but many other BC2 bugs remain in BF3.
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planetside has an excellent VOIP system
you get proximity, but when you're in a platoon you can get squad and platoon and eventually higher VOIP too.
also enemies can hear your voip if you're not careful.
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planetside has an excellent VOIP system
you get proximity, but when you're in a platoon you can get squad and platoon and eventually higher VOIP too.
also enemies can hear your voip if you're not careful.
This ^^ Plus Arma3 Alpha also has a sweet voip setup
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This ^^ Plus Arma3 Alpha also has a sweet voip setup
Can't wait for Arma3 <33
Unlikely to touch new bf.
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Battlelog VOIP was pointless, couldn't use it on a random public server and clans use their own system.
Wonder if dices logic is going to go something like this with bf4 "why bother changing the voip setup hardly anyone used bf3s voip anyway".
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Can't wait for Arma3 <33
Unlikely to touch new bf.
I'm hoping they get it right, stupid I know.
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Wonder if dices logic is going to go something like this with bf4 "why bother changing the voip setup hardly anyone used bf3s voip anyway".
Definately one of the biggest failings of the PC version of BF3, I started on PS3 before moving over to PC and the VOIP on PS3 was about the only redeeming part of playing on that platform.
Comms makes a huge difference to this game, can be the difference when your on an average team...
Hopefully they get rid of suppression or at the very least nerf it down
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Definately one of the biggest failings of the PC version of BF3, I started on PS3 before moving over to PC and the VOIP on PS3 was about the only redeeming part of playing on that platform.
Comms makes a huge difference to this game, can be the difference when your on an average team...
Hopefully they get rid of suppression or at the very least nerf it down
Suppression needs a bit of tweaking, but not much - however the power of a quadrillion Candlepower sun glare from any angle on the map When my Avatar have Fucking Sun Goggles on. That shit needs to be turned down.
Or at least have a Squad Sun Glasses perk
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Or have armys who don't attack when the sun is going down or rising. Lets do this shit at night.
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I would like it if there were server-side options for time of day and weather. It would be a bit more work on the developers part making sure they're always playable, but might be worth it in terms of replayability.
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Or have armys who don't attack when the sun is going down or rising. Lets do this shit at night.
Nah - have you played Death Valley? The Moon is just as bright as the Sun - I shit you not, Moon Glare....
Shit needs to be turned down
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wut. Death Valley is a night map?
I thought they just went overboard on the blue shit.
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wut. Death Valley is a night map?
I thought they just went overboard on the blue shit.
Death Valley
Now renamed 'Smurf Jizz'
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Why would smurf jizz be blue?
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Why would smurf jizz be blue?
Why wouldn't it be Blue?
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Um, because the colour of an animals semen bears no relation to its skin colour?
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Um, because the colour of an animals semen bears no relation to its skin colour?
so....it could be blue?
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It could also be green.
Why wouldn't it be Green?
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It could also be green.
Why wouldn't it be Green?
It could be blue and green? AT THE SAME TIME?!
EDIT: I just watched a video that suggests it's whitey...
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Um, because the colour of an animals semen bears no relation to its skin colour?
Because they are Magical Creatures and everyone knows that Magical creatures have funny coloured Sperm
Source: Dodgy Adult movies involving Elves n Shit
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TDL should know he loooooooves seamen
(http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j352/purnomo3/popey.gif)
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lol seamen
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TDL should know he loooooooves seamen
([url]http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/j352/purnomo3/popey.gif[/url])
Well - it was only after ovearhearing you at Tazlan.....
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Suppression needs a bit of tweaking, but not much - however the power of a quadrillion Candlepower sun glare from any angle on the map When my Avatar have Fucking Sun Goggles on. That shit needs to be turned down.
Or at least have a Squad Sun Glasses perk
Def agree about the sun needing a nerf... and if you watch the analysis of the 17 min vid of the BF4 single player mission it looks like they have done _b
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When Bad Company was released there was a complete change of direction, functionality, and scope of the game. New bugs were introduced like the cursor menu offset problem, the windowed menu box problem, joystick third axis issue etc., etc. All are common to all DICE Frostbite Battlefield games.
At the same time there was a lot of feature changes. Removal of Commander, removal of VOIP, mini map / map, essentially the whole UI was new and alien to the game. DICE and EA passed off these changes as being justified somehow, it was artistic direction, or players didn't want it etc. Patrick Bach even said players didn't want the commander role even when polls on Dices own site were 80% in favour of retaining the Commander role. Similar lies on other issues were tweeted by Daniel Matros who even claimed these decisions had been based on research which he couldn't provide when asked.
Anyway, long story short, all of this is bullshit. The real actual reason for the dramatic overhaul of the UI, including maps, squads, VOIP, Commander, etc. is because River couldn't do it. River are simply Autodesk Scaleform developers. The entire UI, and more importantly all of the features within it, were at the mercy of what River were, or weren't capable of doing.
So the real logic was that DICE weren't implementing these features, River were doing the entire UI, and if River couldn't do it they made up bullshit PR reasons to explain the changes. The amount of bullshit that has surrounded this franchise post BF2 is simply astounding.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ9LHF83S7g
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that video did not enhance my calm, sounds typical of a big corporate , farm out the boring mundane shit to the cheapest tender.....
except that boring, mundane shit included some of the best fucking features in the franchise MORONS
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Or have armys who don't attack when the sun is going down or rising. Lets do this shit at night.
Lol, then they would have guns with flashlights on them.....oh wait
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How to make a battlefield game (post 2005).
Add guns
Add lens flares
$$
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How to make a battlefield game (post 2005).
Add guns
Add lens flares
$$
how come road to rome and secret weapons didn't enjoy the remaining success of the new bf3 expansions add on packs?
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how come road to rome and secret weapons didn't enjoy the remaining success of the new bf3 expansions add on packs?
i guess cause you had to buy them as a cd or dvd where as downloadable content these days is so very easy to access.
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how come road to rome and secret weapons didn't enjoy the remaining success of the new bf3 expansions add on packs?
Had to launch separately to vanilla game, had to go outside to buy discs.
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'New promotional materials for Battlefield 4 suggest that the game will include three playable factions, and see the return of Commander Mode.'
did i miss this or is it a load of speculative bollocks ?
http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/pc/news/1027031.20130416.Battlefield-4-sees-return-of-Commander-Mode/?utm_source=lsv&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Subscriber%2376261&utm_campaign=GPNZ%20Newsletter%202013-04-16 (http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/pc/news/1027031.20130416.Battlefield-4-sees-return-of-Commander-Mode/?utm_source=lsv&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Subscriber%2376261&utm_campaign=GPNZ%20Newsletter%202013-04-16)
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Considering what happened in BF3 - Anything that is talked about before the game is released = Speculative Bollocks
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Doesn't look incredibly official.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/04/15/battlefield-4-commander-mode-three-factions/
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yeah i doubt ill pre order this time ... maybe wait and see what it has to offer first
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now where did i put those Auto hot Key scripts ....
ENEMY BOAT SPOTTED!
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Well I certainly won't preorder on the basis of a video of a single player level, but I wouldn't rule it out.
I don't mind them releasing a bit more regularly, pretty sure everyone was all crying about it not being regular enough 18 months ago.
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Is it just me or does the single player campaign they tack onto these games now seem completely pointless?
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Is it just me or does the single player campaign they tack onto these games now seem completely pointless?
It gives them somewhere to base their maps?
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I actually liked the single player, it got me used to the controls and weapons etc.. before I jumped on multiplayer.
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Totally to do with bf4.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZR87cWTdPmk
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Is it just me or does the single player campaign they tack onto these games now seem completely pointless?
The single player is for marketing purposes. It gives them the pretty looking scripted scenes with big explosions and loud noises which they can cut up into a trailer to try and sell to the people who don't follow the development news and just buy games on the ads.
That's not to say it can't be fun though, like the Bad Company games.
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I like how they refer to themselves as Stunt Drivers in the credits.
Because being a stunt driver in a video game is totally the same thing as being a stunt driver in real life.
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If this poster (said to be from EB Australia) is legit, commander mode is back:
http://bf4central.com/2013/04/battlefield-4-commander-feature/
(http://bf4central.com/2013/04/battlefield-4-commander-feature/)It also features in this alleged Gamestop flyer:
http://bf4central.com/2013/04/battlefield-4-commander-gamestop-flyer/
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If this poster (said to be from EB Australia) is legit, commander mode is back:
[url]http://bf4central.com/2013/04/battlefield-4-commander-feature/[/url]
([url]http://bf4central.com/2013/04/battlefield-4-commander-feature/[/url])It also features in this alleged Gamestop flyer:
[url]http://bf4central.com/2013/04/battlefield-4-commander-gamestop-flyer/[/url]
Haha I love that:
"Go Premium: Stand out on the battlefield with exclusive uniforms, weapons, and more. Get exclusive expansions, starting with Drone Strike (TBA)."
Sniper picking a target....Ahh there's some rich cunt with the red tiger camo premium pack, I bet he's got the smiley face key fob on his hand grenades too....I'll wipe the grin off his face.....
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If this poster (said to be from EB Australia) is legit, commander mode is back:
[url]http://bf4central.com/2013/04/battlefield-4-commander-feature/[/url]
([url]http://bf4central.com/2013/04/battlefield-4-commander-feature/[/url])It also features in this alleged Gamestop flyer:
[url]http://bf4central.com/2013/04/battlefield-4-commander-gamestop-flyer/[/url]
It begs the question, do you have to add your commanders to your battle log friends list before you can actually communicate with them via voip or are they finally going to go back to built ingame voip, gonna assume they do the voip part right else its gonna be omfg..:cower:
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It begs the question, do you have to add your commanders to your battle log friends list before you can actually communicate with them via voip or are they finally going to go back to built ingame voip, gonna assume they do the voip part right else its gonna be omfg..:cower:
lol more than likely will be a commander unlock ... can purchase with premium
but wait ... with commander unlock you also get this beautiful natural glow dildo so EA can go to town on your ass!
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From the poster "THE BRAND NEW COMMANDER MODE!"
Yea thats pretty new alright.
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To be fair, commander mode has never been on a console BF title (consoles now making up 80% of BF3's 30million+ sales) I can see their reasoning behind how it's worded.
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Commander mode should be cross platform. Then 12 year old console players can play as commander and tell all us PC players how to play the game.
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If they are including commander i'd be surprised if they put it on console and if they do put it on console it will be a pile of shit.
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that poster is NOT legit, doesn't come from EB
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lurking
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lurking
for peep show ?
i heard MCC does a good show
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lurking
surprised to see you posting.
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Haha I love that:
"Go Premium: Stand out on the battlefield with exclusive uniforms, weapons, and more. Get exclusive expansions, starting with Drone Strike (TBA)."
Sniper picking a target....Ahh there's some rich cunt with the red tiger camo premium pack, I bet he's got the smiley face key fob on his hand grenades too....I'll wipe the grin off his face.....
That rich cunt will have a drone and would have already fired at the sniper, rich cunts always have the last laugh...
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EB just confirmed pre order bonus....includes 1st expansion dlc for free...."china rising"
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"Give us your money before you get the product, and we'll give you something extra (which should have just been included in the game), if you don't, you're going to have to pay extra for it."
God I hate the video game industry.
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They haven't even announced the features of the new game and they're announcing DLC? Nice.
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Personally, I'm getting the gold premium platinum extra awesome, awesome pack for only $199 extra dollas
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Is that the version that comes with 3 days early access that's only able to be used 4 weeks after the official release date?
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Is that the version that comes with 3 days early access that's only able to be used 4 weeks after the official release date?
Nope. That's the Ultra Mega Ultimate Epic Gold SIlver Bronze Nickel Extra Money for fuck all pack for only $79.95 ($149 in Aus / Nz)
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only $79.95 ($149 in Aus / Nz)
Shipping charges right? for digital content?
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Shipping charges right? for digital content?
Yup. It's the Exclusive Mudbrick Outhouse Gongfarmer Downunder Arsehole not American so Fuck those guys pack.
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I'm just going to buy the Turd Edition.
It's literally just a steaming pile of shit.
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and yet you will all probably buy BF4 and enjoy it - I know I will so quite yer bitchin
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and yet you will all probably buy BF4 and enjoy it - I know I will so quite yer bitchin
I don't think so. I stopped playing BF3 after a few weeks and haven't touched it since.
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i'm certainly in no rush to pre-order, waiting to see the pre-release hype and some MP vids
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and yet you will all probably buy BF4 and enjoy it - I know I will so quite yer bitchin
Yup. I'm looking forward to it. I won't be buying any failspansion packs though
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Yup. I'm looking forward to it. I won't be buying any failspansion packs though
When are you moving to a part of the world with real interwebs? Arma3 - Beta be out shortly
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When are you moving to a part of the world with real interwebs? Arma3 - Beta be out shortly
Not likely to move anywhere until next year so... Sigh. There will be fibre out here soon so crossing fingers.
Arma 3 Alpha is a great start, I bet it will be better than BF4...
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and yet you will all probably buy BF4 and enjoy it - I know I will so quit yer bitchin..
:friendly_wink:
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I have pre-ordered it, I know I'm going to play it as i still load up BF3 every now and then, and it sounds like it could be an improvement on that. I hope voice chat gets sorted out tho, would be nice to talk to people in my squad again.......ah BF2 you were fun.
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I don't think so. I stopped playing BF3 after a few weeks and haven't touched it since.
+1 I lasted about a week and this is after playing every previous edition to death.
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Likewise, can't believe anyone would preorder a BF game after the last one.
Still I am hoping they bring back essence of the bf series in bf4
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Hopefully the series just came down with a bad case of consolitis and will be better again.
I doubt it though.
I reckon it will be a poilished BF3 with the same frustrations thanks to EA wanting to be Activision.
But meh, BF2 will stand as my favorite game of all time.
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and yet you will all probably buy BF4 and enjoy it - I know I will so quite yer bitchin
You say that now, wait til they announce there's no Metro...then we'll see who's bitchin.
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You say that now, wait til they announce there's no Metro...then we'll see who's bitchin.
Ohh burn
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You say that now, wait til they announce there's no Metro...then we'll see who's bitchin.
ima steal your slippers beetch
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Yeah, goooooddddd, who plays games here on this gaming forum. Sooooo passe.
I'm still enjoying it, sure it doesn't have voip or commander or battlerecorder, but it does have reg and a vastly superior server browser, so swings and roundabouts. Hopefully the next iteration offers further improvement.
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That's a pretty sad pro/cons list.
"Sure it doesn't have any of the cool core features but the network code is a little better and it has a really awesome game launcher. So overall it's on par!"
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I don't think that I said it was on par. It's different, but it's not bad in my opinion.
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I think BF3 is good too. Sure there are features that would make it better, but that could be said of a lot of games. Hell, I'll go on record to say that I think BF3 is better than BC2. For me, BC2 was about one rolling close range firefight. BF2 was about intense close range firefights around the flags with long range battles happening between them, which I think BF3 was closer too. This makes the rounds play out a bit more dynamically.
With BF4, at worse it will be something on par with BF3 or BC2 which are still good, enjoyable games and at best, DICE have been working on some popular additions people want and we'll get something closer to BF2.
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You say that now, wait til they announce there's no Metro...then we'll see who's bitchin.[/QUOTE
Lawl!
Its okay - I can fly jets now...
That said - I will miss points whoring on Metro - had some good fun times
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They haven't even announced the features of the new game and they're announcing DLC? Nice.
it's exactly what they did last time, and hardly surprising how successful their bf3 DLC rollout was
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it's exactly what they did last time, and hardly surprising how successful their bf3 DLC rollout was
but was the previous preorder DLC successful because it included some of the most popular maps from bf2, brought into the frostbite 2 engine rather than 4 new maps?
also i may have missed it - or it may not have been annouced - but have they said what maps are in china rising?
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but was the previous preorder DLC successful because it included some of the most popular maps from bf2, brought into the frostbite 2 engine rather than 4 new maps?
also i may have missed it - or it may not have been annouced - but have they said what maps are in china rising?
no i meant in how well thought out & succesfull the whole rollout was
karkand->close quarters->armoured kill->aftermath->end game
i bought premium and reckon i got my moneys worth....perfect timing and every pack was different. will be doing premium again for sure
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no i meant in how well thought out & succesfull the whole rollout was
karkand->close quarters->armoured kill->aftermath->end game
i bought premium and reckon i got my moneys worth....perfect timing and every pack was different. will be doing premium again for sure
As an independent pc gamer, with years of self funded gaming experience, your background in being paid to peddle shit games at me, null and voids my own informed opinion. Huzzah!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=VTnIjqEA4Ro&NR=1
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They haven't even announced the features of the new game and they're announcing DLC? Nice.
^This. will await for features etc before thinking about making a come back.
China rising pic looks promising..hoping they will bring back old skool 2 seater jets, dropping bombs, higher ceiling, china ak47, supply drop and stuff like that
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As an independent pc gamer, with years of self funded gaming experience, your background in being paid to peddle shit games at me, null and voids my own informed opinion. Huzzah!
Zig, it is pretty obvious when Ghosts standard response to any new game seems to be hugely positive followed up by informing us we can buy it from EB GAMES!
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no i meant in how well thought out & succesfull the whole rollout was
karkand->close quarters->armoured kill->aftermath->end game
i bought premium and reckon i got my moneys worth....perfect timing and every pack was different. will be doing premium again for sure
i thought the premium pack was priced competitively for the extra 4 (after Kark incl. in pre-order) game mods however they offered very little that held my attention for more than a few weeks. can't see any need to fork out for DLC again that just splits the player base and causes servers to de-populate even faster .
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DLC that just splits the player base and causes servers to de-populate even faster .
This. There can be too much of a good thing.
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Zig, it is pretty obvious when Ghosts standard response to any new game seems to be hugely positive followed up by informing us we can buy it from EB GAMES!
oh get fucked. seriously, thats all your comment deserves
how dare I have an opinion and not be a cynical cunt that just thinks everything new is shit and the last game was better
that tired fucking attitude is most of the reason i don't bother posting here much anymore,
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Well as far as i'm concerned all the BF games have been good as far as FPS games go. What i expect from ANY fps is put crosshair/sights on man and left click, watch man die. For multiplayer same thing except do it faster than the other guy, and in the respect all BF games have delivered.
Why i can no longer log as many hours as i use to on these games has nothing to do with the game itself but my own perspective, 90% of any fps game play involves moving with wasd and point and click. after 10yrs of this format, shit gets boring. Nothing ground breaking new has been introduced to this genre for many years except shiny new graphics. As Albert Einstein said (and later a character on far cry 3) "The definition of insanity = doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result".
as for the console port argument perhaps you should read this
http://www.cracked.com/article_18571_5-reasons-its-still-not-cool-to-admit-youre-gamer_p2.html
more specifically #1 on that list.
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Point 2 in that article sums up the reason why I have Bioshock and Metro to play, yet decided to replay the original system shock instead. I dont regret that decision.
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This. There can be too much of a good thing.
Does this also apply for mods? They could split the player base and de-populate servers just as much as DLC.
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As Albert Einstein said (and later a character on far cry 3) "The definition of insanity = doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result".
FYI Albert Einstein never said that...and unless you can provide a source, you shouldn't use quotation marks, especially when the quote is wrong.
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FYI Albert Einstein never said that...and unless you can provide a source, you shouldn't use quotation marks, especially when the quote is wrong.
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/alberteins133991.html
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/search?utf8=✓&q=insanity%2C+albert&commit=Search (3rd Einstein quote)
http://www.2spare.com/item_92759.aspx (#27 on this list)
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Does this also apply for mods? They could split the player base and de-populate servers just as much as DLC.
Thats a tricky question
My take:
DLC tends to effect competitive multilayer games more as most devs prefer not to allow mods so that the game experience can be kept balanced for the average joe.
Whereas Mods tend to effect single player games (skyrim) or non competitive multiplayer games (minecraft) where extreme changes in gameplay concocted by the public wont wreck anyone elses experience.
Also mods are created by the community that wish to use them, whereas DLC is fed to us by the devs and therefore we have no input.
I think it depends on the base game, and to what extent the mod or DLC changes or fits in with the existing content.
For BF3, my opinion is there is now too much choice for players, that servers tend to remain unpopulated except for a few. I agree that DLC and mods offer fresh gameplay for a game that is going stale, however devs need to be careful not to flood a community with options.
(all this is probably not an issue on consoles where player bases are larger)
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I HEARD YOU CAN BUY BF4 FROM PLAYTECH.
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that tired fucking attitude is most of the reason i don't bother posting here much anymore
This community is almost made up entirely of old school PC battlefield players, it is such a surprise that when our favourite multiplayer franchise moves towards Console and the iterative nature of CoD with it's executive driven milking of a franchise that we get grumpy about it?
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oh get fucked. seriously, thats all your comment deserves
how dare I have an opinion and not be a cynical cunt that just thinks everything new is shit and the last game was better
that tired fucking attitude is most of the reason i don't bother posting here much anymore,
The reason you, and many others don't bother posting here isn't because of a "tired fucking attitude". Its the game.
Plenty of people thought BF2 was a better game than 1942 (and I'm sure others preferred 1942), so your "everyone is just cynical of anything new" dribble isn't true. The (lack of) activity in this forum these days speaks for itself.
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Well that and the hostility towards newcomers.
I liked the expansions. Yes, they should give us 5000 maps for our $80 outlay, but that's just not going to happen. The expansions are like a contract with the developers to keep them working on the game, and I think they delivered.
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That would make sense if they didn't start working on the DLC before the game even comes out.
Charging a significant sum for maps has always pissed me off, I remember when Halo started selling map-packs for like $15 to Xbox players and the PC community was laughing at their stupidity.
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It still makes sense. They just continue to work on them.
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I hope they have navy ships in this one.
Cloud spotting the runway on iwo jima was sexellent.
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Cloud spotting the runway on iwo jima was sexellent.
fucking oath!
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That would make sense if they didn't start working on the DLC before the game even comes out.
Charging a significant sum for maps has always pissed me off, I remember when Halo started selling map-packs for like $15 to Xbox players and the PC community was laughing at their stupidity.
Would there not be a point in development where the map designers have done their part and thus have nothing to do but develop DLC maps, and should the new maps be part of the core game or a DLC? If games were being released with too few core maps and a DLC then I would be pissed, but I felt BF3 launched with a good number of maps and was fine with the early Karkand DLC.
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Post Karkand killed bf3 for me and probably will not bother with bf4.
I'm in the 1942 camp. I preferred roles being considerably more separate, no assault snipers for example, weaknesses don't get blurred through CoD like unlocks. The older generation such as DoD was just more fun for me.
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Post Karkand killed bf3 for me and probably will not bother with bf4.
I'm in the 1942 camp. I preferred roles being considerably more separate, no assault snipers for example, weaknesses don't get blurred through CoD like unlocks. The older generation such as DoD was just more fun for me.
Imma gonna have to go disagree with you there. I like how through unlocks you can change a class to suit your playing style - I personally hate camping as a sniper (mainly cause I suck at it I think my longest headshot is like 200 meters maybe?) but allow me to put a 4x scope and a straight pull bolt on a sniper rifle and its time for some serious fun. I think having this ability allows for a broader game experiance - rather than forcing people into rigid pre-defined classes with no room to mix it up.
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What you detail there is not entirely what I meant; A sniper class should have a sniper rifle and be allowed to set that up how they like scope/attachment wise, that's cool, but letting sniper class switch to an SMG/shotgun/assault-rifle is what I would consider blurring. Is what killed TF2 for me, was better when classes were clearly defined and not awash with different weapons.
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What you detail there is not entirely what I meant; A sniper class should have a sniper rifle and be allowed to set that up how they like scope/attachment wise, that's cool, but letting sniper class switch to an SMG/shotgun/assault-rifle is what I would consider blurring. Is what killed TF2 for me, was better when classes were clearly defined and not awash with different weapons.
ah you mean the universal weapons (shotties and PDW) that any class can equip - I get you now - I still disagree, playing as Recon with a PDW can be a very good if done with a squad (trading long range fire power for CQB yet retaining spawn beacon and the TUGS to help the squad flank and shank)
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I Will buy BF4. This time I am not going to let myself get all excited with hype, previews and so on. When game is released I will hand over my money and take one in the backside from EA. But hey they might surprise me ? They might use a ribbed condom for extra pleasure :D
But I still jam bf3 tbh, never bought any of the expansion packs, just the fail B2k that came with Bf3. Still love the vanilla maps.
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Imma gonna have to go disagree with you there. I like how through unlocks you can change a class to suit your playing style - I personally hate camping as a sniper (mainly cause I suck at it I think my longest headshot is like 200 meters maybe?) but allow me to put a 4x scope and a straight pull bolt on a sniper rifle and its time for some serious fun. I think having this ability allows for a broader game experiance - rather than forcing people into rigid pre-defined classes with no room to mix it up.
So you mean the engineers kit from BF42?
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So you mean the engineers kit from BF42?
I didn't play BF42 - I was kinda on a hiatus from gaming and missed 1942, BF2 etc - I only got back into FPS when BC2 came out
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Bro! So sorry to hear that.
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[elitist]You sorta missed out on all the actual gaming[/elitist]
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I Will buy BF4. This time I am not going to let myself get all excited with hype, previews and so on. When game is released I will hand over my money and take one in the backside from EA. But hey they might surprise me ? They might use a ribbed condom for extra pleasure :D
But I still jam bf3 tbh, never bought any of the expansion packs, just the fail B2k that came with Bf3. Still love the vanilla maps.
I assume that by "the vanilla maps" you mean "the vanilla map", and that by "the vanilla map" you mean "metro".
The expansion maps are far superior in my opinion. No more 1km hike from uncap to flags that are all 50m apart leastways.
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[elitist]You sorta missed out on all the actual gaming[/elitist]
Well, considering I was a doom/heretic/Duke Nukem 3D/Half life/CS (sorta)/UT/Q3A guy - I don't think I did, I just missed the Online Multiplayer boat (for various reasons) and it wasn't until BC2 when I tried it and rather enjoyed blowing up an entire building (and thus changing the dynamic of the map and that game) that I got back into gaming and by extension discovered online Multiplayer and after a few months of getting my ass liberally handed to me while I brought my skills back up to par, I rather enjoyed it
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So when are you expecting to get those skills up to par?
:D
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Crikey, why even buy a battlefield game when Planetside 2 does everything BF could have done and more.
And it's free.
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Crikey, why even buy a battlefield game when Planetside 2 does everything BF could have done and more.
And it's free.
I tried it for a couple of hours - but TBH if I wanted a game where I could walk around aimlessley for 10-20 minutes without seeing or doing anything - I'd play WOW
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I tried it for a couple of hours - but TBH if I wanted a game where I could walk around aimlessley for 10-20 minutes without seeing or doing anything - I'd play WOW
1) Press M
2) click on "Redeploy"
3) click on "instant action"
but seriously ps2 is really good.
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Maybe he warped to a low pop continent but yes, join a squad, hit escape, hit redeploy, pick the spawn position or as above, instant action (it is so easy to understand where action is or isn't) and you will find yourself in much more shit than you ever did in BF.
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I tried it for a couple of hours - but TBH if I wanted a game where I could walk around aimlessley for 10-20 minutes without seeing or doing anything - I'd play WOW
Thats more about you not having a clue how to play the game, its easypeesy to find some action going on once you know your way about, i blame the CODisation of bf :P.
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Maybe he warped to a low pop continent but yes, join a squad, hit escape, hit redeploy, pick the spawn position or as above, instant action (it is so easy to understand where action is or isn't) and you will find yourself in much more shit than you ever did in BF.
Better yet join a outfit that actually talks to each other, if your in a squad that never says anything over voip you are playing the game wrong.
The game is pretty much bf2 tbh.
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How is the Aussie/NZ population for PS2?
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There's always something reasonably epic going on somewhere on Indar. At times there are many epic battles across the whole continent.
The alerts (2 hours long) seem to be well received too with a lot of outfits and individuals competing.
Best to pick a reasonable outfit if you want real teamwork in the epic parts although lone wolfing (when you know what you're doing) can be very rewarding.
Most nubs roll with NC when starting ;)
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There's always something reasonably epic going on somewhere on Indar. At times there are many epic battles across the whole continent.
The alerts (2 hours long) seem to be well received too with a lot of outfits and individuals competing.
Best to pick a reasonable outfit if you want real teamwork in the epic parts although lone wolfing (when you know what you're doing) can be very rewarding.
Most nubs roll with NC when starting ;)
Naaaah, I'm not in a lame clan outfit thing, all you do is get a mic, and press the home button and it drops you in a random squad who may or may not be doing anything constructive you press M, click on squads, and peruse the squad lists until you find a group who look as though they're doing something constructive, get in, say hi, click instant action and away you go!
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There are some outfits that require applications like "clan" but many are just outfits.
In many ways, the "outfit" has killed clans with the "no need to apply to join our elite team".
One thing Soe has done reasonably well imo.
Although I'm in a small outfit of experiences players. We lock the squad down when we are hitting hard and open to all when we are cruising.
You only think you are doing something constructive homie.
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I am well into the battlefields, but didnt really like ps2. Played it with a bunch of clanners so had teamworks and shit, but found the pace of the game too slow. Plus with huge numbers its impossible to make a huge difference as one player. I often found battles would result in the faction with more players in a certain area winning because of their superior numbers, rather than individual skill, teamwork ability or class selection.
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I am well into the battlefields, but didnt really like ps2. Played it with a bunch of clanners so had teamworks and shit, but found the pace of the game too slow. Plus with huge numbers its impossible to make a huge difference as one player. I often found battles would result in the faction with more players in a certain area winning because of their superior numbers, rather than individual skill, teamwork ability or class selection.
Maybe you were just rubbish?
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Superior numbers is what wins battles. Pick them battles carefully.
Also, smart outfits don't continuously drive place to place. We tend to swap from side to side, back and front and definitely make a difference to the battlefield.
Gal drops, redeploys to contested positions etc. Hack terminals behind enemy lines, mass out heavy tanks etc. and hit from behind. Infinite strats to be used.
Zerging is okay but it's more about mass power. That can be countered easily.
There are 12-29 of us.
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I didn't play BF42 - I was kinda on a hiatus from gaming and missed 1942, BF2 etc - I only got back into FPS when BC2 came out
BF2 was nearly 4 brilliant years, 2500 hours of my life. it contributed to the break up of my marriage and I thank it for that as well : ) new misses loves that I love computer games, is even letting me build a full on simpit for DCS products
Glad they are bringing back commander mode, but the ranks and lack of perks in BF2 was a plus if you ask me.
If they have commander, then surely there is in game voip as well
But like you cowwie, I'll buy it when it comes out, reserve judgement and not get too hyped about it...
Now does anyone else like the clip with star wars on frostbite2?
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E3 struck.
By the way, you can bring down skyscrapers....
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E3 struck.
By the way, you can bring down skyscrapers....
Scripted in Sp only.....
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Scripted in Sp only.....
It was in multiplayer, which doesnt mean to say it's not scripted.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ro2IgoUYu0
they appear to be calling it levolution
EA says: "Levolution creates a dynamic and emergent battlefield where gamers can use the environment to their advantage like cutting the power to a building to shroud their enemy in darkness or reducing an entire skyscraper to rubble to alter the battlefield. With Levolution, the environment reacts to the player's every move and ensures no two games will ever be the same.
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wonder if they will let you load a vehicle up with C4 and drive it to the base of a big building and detonate aka twin towers 1993? Might be a little realistic.
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wonder if they will let you load a vehicle up with C4 and drive it to the base of a big building and detonate aka twin towers 1993? Might be a little realistic.
Did you watch the video? a single frag grenade can take out a carpark pillar and bring down a whole tank!
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Apparently in-game VOIP is confirmed. And, DICE said no to modding support.. Bastards!
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Apparently in-game VOIP is confirmed. And, DICE said no to modding support.. Bastards!
bleh, it's not like anything short of an entire game development company could come up with something half good in any reasonable amount of time these days anyway.
The content creation alone for a AAA game these days must be murder.
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That would make sense if they didn't start working on the DLC before the game even comes out.
Charging a significant sum for maps has always pissed me off, I remember when Halo started selling map-packs for like $15 to Xbox players and the PC community was laughing at their stupidity.
At least with Halo 4 when they offered all DLC free they actually delivered, I'm looking at you BF3