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Title: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: bigROBOTbill on January 21, 2014, 11:00:27 am
Hi team I bought myself a R280x a wee while back now I've just ordered an upgrade bundle

this from Playtech:
AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Eight-Core Desktop Processor
Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P Motherboard
G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory

What steps will ensure the motherboard will install properly, I'd really like to not have to reinstall windows if possible...
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Growler on January 21, 2014, 11:01:49 am
playtech... booooo hissssss boooo
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: bigROBOTbill on January 21, 2014, 11:05:10 am
Yeah I know, shush.
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Growler on January 21, 2014, 11:06:40 am
Install the mobo drivers before you swap them out.

Also make a restore point!
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: han16 on January 21, 2014, 11:12:07 am
I'd never recommend not installing a fresh unmolested copy of windows with a new motherboard.
Every time I couldn't be arsed it would be a few months later that I was doing the full reinstall anyways after weird and interesting things started happening, mostly do with drivers crashing or all of sudden forgetting how to computer.

My advice would be to wipe and start again now. Do it once, do it right.
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Arseynimz on January 21, 2014, 11:45:23 am
I'd never recommend not installing a fresh unmolested copy of windows with a new motherboard.
Every time I couldn't be arsed it would be a few months later that I was doing the full reinstall anyways after weird and interesting things started happening, mostly do with drivers crashing or all of sudden forgetting how to computer.

My advice would be to wipe and start again now. Do it once, do it right.

This.

I think a number of us all reinstall religiously anyway. Get in to the habit, it means you don't clusterfuck your system with too much crap, and you start to see what programs you do and don't use. You also gather a nice repository of the programs and drivers you need for each install, and after having the same hardware for a few years, it's like clockwork when you do it, and you go from having a 2-3 day reinstall process to getting it done in a few hours on a Sunday afternoon, and you're back playing before night falls.
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: han16 on January 21, 2014, 11:50:01 am
I have external HD setup with all the needed bits and pieces along with all my steam/games/other shite on other hard drives, a full reinstall takes less than an hour (the SSD plays a big part of that too).

OP, do you have windows on a separate drive/partition or is it all one big cluster fuck?
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: BeNZene on January 21, 2014, 11:59:51 am
Things that really help swift regular reinstalls and/or upgrades:
- All your drivers downloaded in advance
- Windows media on a bootable USB (so much faster, and you can add subfolders with drivers and stuff)
- Another PC, ideally set up next to it, so that you can download additional drivers and google if you hit problems
- Ninite  (ninite.com) to install lots of those small apps quickly

I also think that you will get more comfortable doing it if you have:
- A system for storing passwords so they don't get deleted when you reinstall;
- Partitions or seperate drives to split your data from your OS, which minimises those "OH SHIT" deletion moments, and helps with taking...
- An image of the OS partition that you keep for a month or two after a reinstall, so that if you do accidentally lose something you need you can get it back.
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Growler on January 21, 2014, 12:03:33 pm
Windows 8 makes this a complete breeze by the way.
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Nostargate on January 21, 2014, 12:09:32 pm
Dont forget to use bacon during instal.
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: winter on January 21, 2014, 12:10:56 pm
I still need to grab a copy of Win8 - but yeah, totes on the bandwagon of reinstalling windows.. worth it in the long run with less weird driver shit going down!
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: han16 on January 21, 2014, 12:13:13 pm
Dont forget to use bacon during instal.

Rub bacon juice on ones chest whilst installing for the best effect?
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: bigROBOTbill on January 21, 2014, 12:34:01 pm
You are all wise beyond your years!
I shall wait till the weekend to do a clean install then.

I do have a separate drive with all my pics and music etc on it. I use Mozbackup for email and browser.


So what steps do I take after the install of MB, install win8 first then MB drivers or vice versa.

Also someone posted somewhere about steps to take to avoid the whole download and install of the BF4 upgrades etc afterwards
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Growler on January 21, 2014, 12:42:35 pm
if you have win 8, you will very likely not need a lot of the drivers,
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Nostargate on January 21, 2014, 12:47:05 pm
Dont forget to use bacon during instal.

Rub bacon juice on ones chest whilst installing for the best effect?

I'll rub yours.
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: han16 on January 21, 2014, 12:53:23 pm
With regard to BF4,
1/ find the origin games install directory (you can see this via the application settings in origin, under the 'advanced tab')

2/ Copy and paste the BF4 directory within that folder to another hard drive/flash drive (should be 30 something gig)

3/ After installing windows etc and reinstalling origin start the origin launcher installing BF4, it will begin downloading the game files. Let it go to 1%, then close origin completely (make sure its closed not minimized) without stopping the BF4 install.

4/ Now copy the BF4 files you moved onto the alternative storage into the new origin folder under the BF4 directory Origin would of created. If prompted just copy and replace.

5/ Reopen origin and as the installer/downloading resumes BF4 should shoot up to complete removing the need to redownload the fucker.

Disclaimer:
Origin is gay
Origin may reinstall the latest patch for no reason
This works with other titles on origin also
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: bigROBOTbill on January 21, 2014, 12:59:10 pm
Cool, cheers Han!
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Zenith on January 21, 2014, 01:48:47 pm

- Ninite  (ninite.com) to install lots of those small apps quickly


Thats Cool, I probably need to watch what I add in so as not to overfill the SSD if it uses default location.
be good when I have to fix my parents PC
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Lias on January 21, 2014, 02:47:24 pm
Cancel order
Buy from CL.
??
Profit!
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: bigROBOTbill on January 21, 2014, 02:56:52 pm
Would they be any cheaper, they only have upgrade bundles for over a thousand bucks on their site.


Just had a quick look for the same stuff  (slightly different ram) and they ( CL ) are $70 dearer.
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Lias on January 21, 2014, 03:05:46 pm
Would they be any cheaper, they only have upgrade bundles for over a thousand bucks on their site.

CL will often pricematch if asked. Especially against gaytech.
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: bigROBOTbill on January 21, 2014, 03:14:02 pm
Would they be any cheaper, they only have upgrade bundles for over a thousand bucks on their site.

CL will often pricematch if asked. Especially against gaytech.

I feel I shouldn't need to ask.
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Arseynimz on January 21, 2014, 03:27:56 pm
Would they be any cheaper, they only have upgrade bundles for over a thousand bucks on their site.

CL will often pricematch if asked. Especially against gaytech.

I feel I shouldn't need to ask.

Always ask - it's your right as a customer in this day and age.

PB will easily supply you a price matched option if they have stock (and are highly likely to given the size of their operation), and CL will if you ask nicely.

GS has no specific affiliation (as yet), so we don't recommend anyone, but just go for price and support. If you do get that mobo or RAM that is slightly shitty, then you want to be able to rock in on Sunday at 2:30 and get a replacement without them testing it first to prove you are right.

gl hf dude, sounds like you have a plan in the bag!
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Growler on January 21, 2014, 03:44:23 pm
send me your money and I will buy it from china, much reliable, such warranty, very wow!
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Plasma on January 21, 2014, 03:54:32 pm
So whats wrong with playtech ? I remember once saying I wasn't buying BF3 from them I got anal raped by BF nerds.
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: bigROBOTbill on January 21, 2014, 03:54:51 pm
I thought Playtech was China...


any way, it's all on it's way, just got the confirmation.
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: han16 on January 21, 2014, 03:55:30 pm
The owner is the reason on3 was down for so long.
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: winter on January 21, 2014, 03:56:02 pm
send me your money and I will buy it from china, much reliable, such warranty, very wow!

> comes back with 30Kg of honey-cured maple soaked bacon.
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: bigROBOTbill on January 21, 2014, 03:57:28 pm
The owner is the reason on3 was down for so long.


Oh I see,   I shall heed all the above advice in the future though!
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Lias on January 21, 2014, 08:33:04 pm
So whats wrong with playtech ? I remember once saying I wasn't buying BF3 from them I got anal raped by BF nerds.


See http://www.getsome.co.nz/index.php?topic=86731.0 (http://www.getsome.co.nz/index.php?topic=86731.0)

Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: The Demon Lord on January 22, 2014, 08:19:44 am
I still love Playtech, too bad my company has a corporate account with PBtech and our Account manager is awesome
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: winter on January 22, 2014, 09:16:21 am
CL/PBtech > Playtech.
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Lias on January 22, 2014, 01:27:55 pm
CL/PBtech > Playtech.

This
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: bigROBOTbill on January 22, 2014, 09:26:39 pm
Anyway, I got my bits today and put them all together, and to my amazement it booted up and installed everything necessary all by itself (win eight). I couldn't resist trying it out to see what it all did, I will do a clean win install when I get an SSD soon. My FPS went from 20-30 with ultra settings to a constant 60, the smoothness is amazing, I still suck but at least I can see the guy killing me now and it looks real purty. More than happy with the upgrade! :)

Thanks for the input!

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/513/6zxs.jpg)
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Xenolightning on January 22, 2014, 09:29:26 pm
Anyway, I got my bits today and put them all together, and to my amazement it booted up and installed everything necessary all by itself (win 8). I couldn't resist trying it out to see what it all did, I will do a clean win install when I get an SSD soon. My FPS went from 20-30 with ultra settings to a constant 60, the smoothness is amazing, I still suck but at least I can see the guy killing me now and it looks real purty. More than happy with the upgrade! :)

Thanks for the input!
Shot bRb!

Always nice when you build things that work :P
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: winter on January 23, 2014, 08:32:18 am
Awesome news bRb :)
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: bigROBOTbill on January 23, 2014, 08:38:22 am
All good except the fan noise is quite marked, it fluctuates during game play quite a bit. Not too good as the computer is in the lounge.

Any suggestions as to an aftermarket cooler that runs nice and quiet and not too expensive. I had a quick look and my eyes glassed over as there were so many at such different prices.
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Growler on January 23, 2014, 09:34:02 am
I think the closed water cooling options are the best?

something like this.

http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=FANCLM2112&name=COOLER-MASTER-Seidon-120V-Watercooling-kit---Blue- (http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=FANCLM2112&name=COOLER-MASTER-Seidon-120V-Watercooling-kit---Blue-)

Prob work for you since you won't be OC?
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: han16 on January 23, 2014, 10:13:14 am
I think the closed water cooling options are the best?

something like this.

[url]http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=FANCLM2112&name=COOLER-MASTER-Seidon-120V-Watercooling-kit---Blue-[/url] ([url]http://www.pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=FANCLM2112&name=COOLER-MASTER-Seidon-120V-Watercooling-kit---Blue-[/url])

Prob work for you since you won't be OC?


+1 this
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Mayhem_Lee on January 24, 2014, 04:16:57 pm
The link posted by bacon or a Corsair H55/H60 unit would also be good.
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Arseynimz on January 24, 2014, 04:40:03 pm
I'm a fan for the linked ones like the Antec or Corsair:
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=18297 (http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentview.asp?partid=18297)

The ability to set up a fan speed profile makes them pretty good for noise control, but then I always figure your CPU loop is never going to be the issue when you compare it to GPU fan noise!
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: RightHandOnly on January 24, 2014, 10:23:04 pm
feeling the urge to buy technology...but have no idea what...8-( sad panda.

Sent back my 290x as it was shit...will wait a bit for a few more refined versions to come out.
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Mayhem_Lee on January 25, 2014, 03:57:50 pm
feeling the urge to buy technology...but have no idea what...8-( sad panda.

Sent back my 290x as it was shit...will wait a bit for a few more refined versions to come out.


Stop derailing thread! oh wait this is getsome.....

Get yourself a 780 then use Nvidia shadow play for all the good times
Title: Re: Ordered upgrade kit, need install advice
Post by: Dr. Acula on January 25, 2014, 05:07:29 pm
Anyway, I got my bits today and put them all together, and to my amazement it booted up and installed everything necessary all by itself (win eight). I couldn't resist trying it out to see what it all did, I will do a clean win install when I get an SSD soon. My FPS went from 20-30 with ultra settings to a constant 60, the smoothness is amazing, I still suck but at least I can see the guy killing me now and it looks real purty. More than happy with the upgrade! :)

Thanks for the input!

([url]http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/513/6zxs.jpg[/url])


I want to say 7970 as the card looks pretty much identical to mine, but since I'm not near my computer, I could'nt say for sure. Either way, Triple-Slot Graphics Master Race  8)