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General Chat / Religion. The evolution, creation and everything in between megathread
« on: August 21, 2005, 05:06:05 pm »
Hey guys and gals.
Recently there has been some religious discussion on ICONZ. I was just typing replies to the thoughts in the 'Meat' thread when i just cruised over to the 'How evil are you' thread and saw the same thing being discussed there.
So lets leave it out of all other ICONZ threads and focus it just here.
Verrt is a moderator here in 'Off Topic' these days. Which is great because i think hes a good bloke and agree with his ideas on what is stupid trolling and not helping a discussion.
So there we go, weve got a moderator for this discussion, something it may need if it degenerates. However, the idea of 'lets not talk about this because it will just cause an agrument' i really dont like. We are not all teenagers who only come to ICONZ to say 'leet' alot and talk in single sentances. Lets do this guys, im really interested to see into some of the personalities ive been sharing this forum with.
a couple of things thou.
personal attacks. dont do this. feel free to pick apart what someone has posted, analyse and rebut all you like. but dont personalise it. this means:
bY said: The sky is red
m3th replies with: No its not you goddamn retard.
thats a personal attack. keep it objective.
bY said: The sky is red
m3th replies with: The sky is blue and if you go outside right now youll see its the truth.
I know thats obvious, but there can be no misunderstanding here.
the second thing.
Mine is a democratic nation (as is yours in nz). we dont have a constitution, but our laws are formed in a similar vein.
anyway. you know what the FIRST Amendment of the US Consitution is?
and thats how we feel about it here in Australia, you guys over there in NZ and the poms over in England and basically all of us 'civilised' nations. So the right for someone to believe what they want is not in question here. I never said anything against this, this is the way our great nations work.
so lets just leave this stuff out of the discussion from here in. Its redundant and we all feel the same way about it.
ok? got it? everyone has the right to believe what they want. thats not the discussion. the discussion is firstly evolution vs creation and then all the things that will crop up from that.
thirdly. only some people are going to want to participate here. before you post in this thread think to yourself:
'am i contributing anything to this?'
'is the thread better off with my post?'
This is just to stop idiots coming in and saying 'this is silly and we shouldnt discuss this'.
Well, we are discussing it. If you dont want to be part of it, thats fine, but please remain silent and dont shit up our thread.
ok thats it. everyone got the idea? this is a serious discussion on ICONZ. this isnt your run of the mill, idiotic spamfest thread. repsect each others ideas and lets have some interesting (and probably enlightening) debate.
Recently there has been some religious discussion on ICONZ. I was just typing replies to the thoughts in the 'Meat' thread when i just cruised over to the 'How evil are you' thread and saw the same thing being discussed there.
So lets leave it out of all other ICONZ threads and focus it just here.
Verrt is a moderator here in 'Off Topic' these days. Which is great because i think hes a good bloke and agree with his ideas on what is stupid trolling and not helping a discussion.
So there we go, weve got a moderator for this discussion, something it may need if it degenerates. However, the idea of 'lets not talk about this because it will just cause an agrument' i really dont like. We are not all teenagers who only come to ICONZ to say 'leet' alot and talk in single sentances. Lets do this guys, im really interested to see into some of the personalities ive been sharing this forum with.
a couple of things thou.
personal attacks. dont do this. feel free to pick apart what someone has posted, analyse and rebut all you like. but dont personalise it. this means:
bY said: The sky is red
m3th replies with: No its not you goddamn retard.
thats a personal attack. keep it objective.
bY said: The sky is red
m3th replies with: The sky is blue and if you go outside right now youll see its the truth.
I know thats obvious, but there can be no misunderstanding here.
the second thing.
Mine is a democratic nation (as is yours in nz). we dont have a constitution, but our laws are formed in a similar vein.
anyway. you know what the FIRST Amendment of the US Consitution is?
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
and thats how we feel about it here in Australia, you guys over there in NZ and the poms over in England and basically all of us 'civilised' nations. So the right for someone to believe what they want is not in question here. I never said anything against this, this is the way our great nations work.
so lets just leave this stuff out of the discussion from here in. Its redundant and we all feel the same way about it.
ok? got it? everyone has the right to believe what they want. thats not the discussion. the discussion is firstly evolution vs creation and then all the things that will crop up from that.
thirdly. only some people are going to want to participate here. before you post in this thread think to yourself:
'am i contributing anything to this?'
'is the thread better off with my post?'
This is just to stop idiots coming in and saying 'this is silly and we shouldnt discuss this'.
Well, we are discussing it. If you dont want to be part of it, thats fine, but please remain silent and dont shit up our thread.
ok thats it. everyone got the idea? this is a serious discussion on ICONZ. this isnt your run of the mill, idiotic spamfest thread. repsect each others ideas and lets have some interesting (and probably enlightening) debate.
