Budget Gaming (~$ 1,400):
CPU - AMD Athlon II X2 245 ([url]http://pricespy.co.nz/product.php?p=455668[/url]) - $160
Youve ether written down the wrong price or part, as a "AMD Athlon II X2 245' is around $100 not $160.
My guess would be you ment x4 630, as thats around $160
Other than that looks good :sunnies:
wow---well done bro, though would be nice to get a price with them building
Recommended PC Builders (for those that don't want the joy of building their own l337 rig):
Playtech ([url]http://www.playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139235/CATID=504/ID=13573/SID=731847356/productdetails.html[/url]) (GetSome Partners)
Computer Lounge ([url]http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentlist.asp?parttypeid=508&t=26[/url])
You buggers building your own computers are clever bastards.
That is all.
Did you have a moment creating the OMG Hax system, I had a small one looking at it. There is two minor adjustments I would make however. First a second monitor, and second a high class prostitute.
Must spread rep :( :( :(
Excellent list Philo, BTW iFocus have 40GB Intel SSDs for $200 ATM, might be useful in a budget gaming rig ?
Does GetSome have any deals with Playtech as I'm likely to be upgrading to an i5 system this week or next and its a toss up between buying from CL or Playtech.
Well done on the thread Philo, very well laid out.
however GetSome now has the distinction of having the best :
i still laugh at the pic for SRS GAMING
i know people like that
I'm saving my pennies atm for Xonar D1 $149 from the like of CL
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Quote from: JontyB;1284253i still laugh at the pic for SRS GAMING
i know people like that
Dude... that's a self-photo. I 4m t3h 0ff3nd3d :(
Great thread, good work.
I'm surprised more people don't build in this country???
In regard to the Auzentech Xfi, I had one and it never went right, cracks, pops, etc, RMA'd, new card same thing, conflict with rig i guess somewhere, switched to other rig, same issues, now just run G35, which is better imo.
wats goin on dis thread
no 6990?
i'm predicting this thread will get rather busy once the BF3 recommended specs get released
BTW anyone seen the new Corsair H60 listed anywhere ?
would AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition and a cheap 90$ mobo like Gigabyte GA-MA74GMT-S2 be fine? im budget i guess
would AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition and a cheap 90$ mobo like Gigabyte GA-MA74GMT-S2 be fine? im budget i guess
Post a thread of what you looking at buying and let them IT Geeks post away :)
Updated 17/07/2011
Tired of waiting for Bulldozer to actually show up, so have updated everything. There are some minor changes to prices and products (such as hard drives, memory and CPU cooling due to availability) as well as a universal movement from Sandforce 1200 to Sandforce 2200 solid state drives where present, with a resultant near doubling of speed.
A welcome and easy change is from P67 to the new and superior Z68 motherboards in our very prevalent LGA-1155 (Sandy Bridge) PC's - as a result of Z68, the gaming rigs now all have included SSD's, due to the awesomeness of SSD caching ([url]http://www.anandtech.com/show/4329/intel-z68-chipset-smart-response-technology-ssd-caching-review/2[/url]) and shome shiny new cases to boot. At the upper end, all PC's now have 8+GB of RAM due to its cheapness and can observe a pro Nvidia graphics movement (with the GTX 560 Ti, GTX 570 and GTX 580 ruling the upper end).
In the budget end we also see AMD's powerful new Llano CPU's take up home - increasing cost by $200, but bringing quad core (with each core being much faster) and critically very functional basic gaming capabilities to even our cheapest system. HTPC's stay with Intel for now due to their lower price and power consumption (though this may change with incoming cheaper Llano CPUs and boards) with a few minor changes and speed upgrades.
Mmm.. power :D Now for AMD to bring out Bulldozer, and Intel Sandy-Bridge E...
The gaming build has a 6950 2gig instead of the 560Ti you update the list again since this post philo old boy?Cheers for bringing that up. It wasn't quite a typo so much as my being as clear as mud. At stock (and let's face it that's where the majority of people leave their cards) the 6950 is faster than the GTX 560 Ti and as such it's 'just right' for the $2,200 build. The GPU market is refreshingly competitive - what I was meaning is that Nvidia have pretty much cleared AMD out of the higher end builds - of the four 'gaming' builds the one you mentioned is the only one with an AMD card, however the price vs performance differential is razor thin, so whilst Nvidia is a bit dominant overall it makes sense to have the 6950 in that dollar build - basically I overstated Nvidias dominance a bit, albeit that they are ahead.
Some of the 6950s flash to 6970s too, which makes them even better value. The only reason I grabbed a GTX570 was because it was an open box deal for only 400 bucks, otherwise it would have been Radeon for me too.
people have had issues with it and some cards wont do it.
people have had issues with it and some cards wont do it.
Some of the 6950s. it must be possible to find out which cards are most likely to flash with success.
Should the pagefile be placed on SSDs?
Yes. Most pagefile operations are small random reads or larger sequential writes, both of which are types of operations that SSDs handle well.
In looking at telemetry data from thousands of traces and focusing on pagefile reads and writes, we find that
•Pagefile.sys reads outnumber pagefile.sys writes by about 40 to 1,
•Pagefile.sys read sizes are typically quite small, with 67% less than or equal to 4 KB, and 88% less than 16 KB.
•Pagefile.sys writes are relatively large, with 62% greater than or equal to 128 KB and 45% being exactly 1 MB in size.
In fact, given typical pagefile reference patterns and the favorable performance characteristics SSDs have on those patterns, there are few files better than the pagefile to place on an SSD.
Looks more like an office box to me, would it be for a gaming rig? You could probably get something with more room and better cooling.
Although the website says 'good cooling' and shows a side vent :D
Cheers for bringing that up. It wasn't quite a typo so much as my being as clear as mud. At stock (and let's face it that's where the majority of people leave their cards) the 6950 is faster than the GTX 560 Ti and as such it's 'just right' for the $2,200 build. The GPU market is refreshingly competitive - what I was meaning is that Nvidia have pretty much cleared AMD out of the higher end builds - of the four 'gaming' builds the one you mentioned is the only one with an AMD card, however the price vs performance differential is razor thin, so whilst Nvidia is a bit dominant overall it makes sense to have the 6950 in that dollar build - basically I overstated Nvidias dominance a bit, albeit that they are ahead.
... of course that's until the 28nm Southern Islands (including one code named 'New Zealand'!) come out, allegedly before the end of the year and well ahead of Nvidia's new cards.
*rubs hands together in glee*
That truly is clear as mud. So do I get a 560 ti or a 6950? At a glance the 560's are chePer...Only one more question is allowed! The 560 Ti and 6950 are both good cards. If you don't want to overclock, go with the 6950, if you do want to mess around with overcloking and BIOS', then either are good.
But then my 4830 plays bc2 on low fine, in theory will it play bf3 on low fine? Is an upgrade gpu really only an upgrade to medium settings? And is that even worth it?
Do I already know the answer which is wait for bf3 to come out before I make a call to upgrade?
How many more questions am I allowed?
A couple of questions Philo in regards to those builds:Have to agree on the 1TB hard drive, as much for capacity as speed (there isn't all that much performance difference IRL) have edited the gamer build accordingly (left the 500GB in the ultra budget build tho).
Why the Seagate 500GB over the faster Samsung F3? Also I'm more than sure people can spare an extra $20 for a 1TB.....
The Antec Neo Eco 620W is a good bit cheaper than the Antec HCG 620W while both are extremely similar. The saving on the PSU negates the extra for 1TB, resulting in a better value system.
I imagine stealing it quite often...
BF3 will be very taxing don't expect the 4830 to play it at all, go grab a 6950 currently the best bang for buck ([url]http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6950-1gb-vs-geforce-gtx-560-ti-review/12[/url])
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vs
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i would upgrade both. RAM is so cheap these days.This.
I just got 12GB for around $100
Another question sorry, is it nessecary to go to 8gb ram from 4gb and should I upgrade my 5850?
Processor:
AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1055T Processor (6 CPUs), ~2.8GHz
Memory:
4096MB RAM
Hard Drive:
1X500GB 1X1TB
Video Card:
ATI Radeon HD 5850
Monitor:
Samsung P2250
All good?
What motherboard/PSU/case do you has? I've gone for the el-cheapo 2x 5850 idea (maybe you can too) and I'm confident it will be ok. Nobody has really mentioned RAM tbh.Speaks the truth. Well considering 4GB is almost the minimum these days, nobody should be worrying about memory. If you need more than 4GB of RAM to play the game I'd be seriously concerned with the underlying game engine. 1GB OS + ~3GB maximum for a single game should never* be an issue.
What is a good cheap case that has good ventulation and is able to house a 6950 with out a fuss?.
How it looks from the outside is a non issue.
Is it a bad idea to buy each part separately (not installing them. My motherboard is on all the old technology, I think my graphics card is AGP or something, aswell as cpu being on old technology aswell, Possibly even ram too?)
Will parts get outdated badly within 6 months, or have a significant price drop, and on top of that, would their most likely be a part at the same price 6 months after?
see sig for current pc, el oh el.
My first computer was one with dos, where I had to get my brother to help me launch police quest.
My second computer was worse than this one, It was able to run windows xp, but I think it barely survived on wow's lowest settings.
Now My 3rd computer, my current one, is this shit.
My aim is to buy a pc that will last, that will blow bf3 out of the water and back, and just be a nice high end pc for a good while.
Reason I was asking is because i'm on a first year apprentice's wages... Its lower than minimum wage, lets keep it at that lol. I can't stop spending the money I save because it's the first time i've ever had easy access to money (never had pocket money, etc). I was hoping that mentally, Saving for a 300$ part at a time (or so) will make me want to spend less, than trying to save for the "impossible" 5k ;p
For the average consumer this translates into higher prices and IDC expects hard drive prices to go up by about 10 percent in Q4. However, as we reported yesterday, prices have shot up well beyond 10 percent.
I'd wait for Ivy-bridge and the 7 seris of GPUs and in the mean while grab the RAM, PSU, Case, HDD and anything else not getting an upgrade for the next few years
essentially stopping production of the faster Phenom II X4
and one question, the 3770k, is that still ivy bridge?... <- Feel like a dick saying that because it shows how much I don't know about pc's. I hear a good name and that's all I care about, Lol
Sweet as, I don't know much about computers. I'm trying to learn what a good idea is and all but I really don't SEE anything (as in, no visual evidence. Just graphs and peoples words)
I've said this many times, and I'm just wanting you all to know my childish reasoning.
Water cooling, Was because i've heard "You can over clock the FUCK out of things". Refers to the whole "blowing games out of the water" thing.
Power supply, I just didn't know what to get so I thought i'll just get one that would def cover it . hahaha.
and one question, the 3770k, is that still ivy bridge?... <- Feel like a dick saying that because it shows how much I don't know about pc's. I hear a good name and that's all I care about, Lol
[url]http://bit.ly/Ksl2yW[/url] should answer your question.
Yeah k, will update this by midweek?Awesome thanks heaps Philo!
Yeah, an update would be great. I always use this thread.
Trying to figure out graphics cards is too hard for my brain to handle on its own.
670Gtx do it
I heard Philo died. Will he be updating this thread?
I'm going to write some kind of automated program that will countine to post here on my behalf after I die.I think you are severely underestimating how long most of us will last. Half the forum is so pickled in alcohol that it'll be 1000 years before enough blood gets through to start the processes of bodily decay. And the other half are, like, negative 50 years old.
In fact, we all should set one up. 1000 years from now, we'll all still be posting here, long after we have all died.
Yeah, an update would be great. I always use this thread.7850 for midrange and 670/680 for higher end.
Trying to figure out graphics cards is too hard for my brain to handle on its own.
I heard Philo died. Will he be updating this thread?
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Thought you were programming spam bots to replace us monkey
Get on to that shit
His ghost roams the forums!
I heard Philo died. Will he be updating this thread?
We need a new Philo. Who will step up to take his place?
Sounds like he is travelling or on the move. TO THE GHOSTMOBILE!
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SSD > other upgrades
What about a W/C system that the coolant was replaced with jizz?
I thought a jizzaflop would be better
what are you talking about a jizzaflop is after your processor has completed a jizzacycle.. then it flops waits a few cycles then it's ready to jizzacycle some more.
Speak for yourself....
With some voltage tweaks, I have eliminated the Jizzaflop between Jizzacycles
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Decided to man up and just buy a computer instead.
Had my friend help me get the parts together, I don't want to post this in the Recommended build thread as i've posted too many "gone-nowhere" posts there.([url]http://iforce.co.nz/i/kqyjyacm.w2t.jpg[/url])
Everything Kayne Said:CAUZ IM N00B AND DONT KNOW COMPUTERS AND LIEK AM ALSO SPENDING 2 GRAND IN A WEEK OR TWO ON ONE
Which set up is better?
Or
Was planning to spend the 300$ left over from 2nd option on a dell ultra sharp 23"
Edit : ahahaha, just read what I wrote in that old post. Lol'd
CAUZ IM N00B AND DONT KNOW COMPUTERS AND LIEK AM ALSO SPENDING 2 GRAND IN A WEEK OR TWO ON ONE
Which set up is better?Quote from: O-L-W-A-G;1504370[url]http://www.playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139235/CATID=375/ID=17393/SID=712334944/productdetails.html[/url]
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OrQuote from: `Kayne;1501128Decided to man up and just buy a computer instead.
Had my friend help me get the parts together, I don't want to post this in the Recommended build thread as i've posted too many "gone-nowhere" posts there.([url]http://iforce.co.nz/i/kqyjyacm.w2t.jpg[/url])
Was planning to spend the 300$ left over from 2nd option on a dell ultra sharp 23"
Edit : ahahaha, just read what I wrote in that old post. Lol'd
Oh for God's sake has no one taken this over already... Fine, I'll update the thread when I get, say five rep's. I'm not specifying positive or negative but everyone here has always been so nice I feel I don't need to.
What is a good mid range cpu cooler for ocing a 3750k?, other than the hyper 212 evo.
What is a good mid range cpu cooler for ocing a 3750k?, other than the hyper 212 evo.
D[/URL]on't fuck around... My good man.
How much over-clocking are you wanting to do? The Ivy bridge run's a tad warmer then the old sandy minge
Is the 600 series worth it?
Is the 600 series worth it?
Ahh, damnnit, 5 reps ;) Ok I'll slap something together folks! (this weekend perhaps)
Generally speaking it gives slightly better value/performance/efficiency than AMDs lineup does, yes.
bullshitY U MEAN 4 :<
OMFGWTFHAX rig (~ $11,000):
bullshitY U MEAN 4 :<
Think he mighta meant BF11, or whatever the fuck they're up to now.
Everyone knows that the best Battlefield game was Battlefield 3.11Think he mighta meant BF11, or whatever the fuck they're up to now.
The Battlefield series learnt how to count from Microsoft.
Think he mighta meant BF11, or whatever the fuck they're up to now.
The Battlefield series learnt how to count from Microsoft.
CE
1942
Vietnam
2
2142
BC
Heroes
1943
BC2
3
4
hardline
1
I didn't know there was a Battlefield Embedded Compact version.(Not sure if trolling or do not know)
$2k Budget - Want to play BF1 on pretty settings
What's the best spend for my money.
So what is the recommended fan setup for computers now. Last PC I had I was running 1 120 exhaust against 3 120 inlet. New case has 1 200 inlet and a 140 exhaust. Thinking of picking up 2 140s for the top of the case. But not sure if I want them both to be blowing in (I was of the belief you want positive pressure), since 1 in/out is still positive due to the sizing.