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Games => First-Person Shooter => Battlefield => Topic started by: bigROBOTbill on January 30, 2014, 10:23:04 pm

Title: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: bigROBOTbill on January 30, 2014, 10:23:04 pm
Hopefully we will all be amazed and astounded ! 
:)
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: Mayhem_Lee on January 30, 2014, 10:24:37 pm
Shall await the disappointment from over in the nvidia camp
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: Growler on January 30, 2014, 10:26:33 pm
High end rigs expect about 14% boost.

mid/low rigs 40% boost.

This will change once AMD updates the drivers specific to BF4. I'd give it a week until they have it flying and see some real numbers.
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: Growler on January 30, 2014, 10:36:00 pm
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"1.Mantle performance for the AMD Radeon HD 7000/HD 8000 Series GPUs and AMD Radeon R9 280X and R9 270X GPUs will be optimized for BattleField 4 in future AMD Catalyst releases. These products will see limited gains in BattleField 4 and AMD is currently investigating optimizations for them as they are the next highest priority products. - See more at: [url]http://www.maximumpc.com/amds_catalyst_141_drivers_are_incoming_mantle_update_and_more#sthash.T39Jlpur.dpuf[/url] ([url]http://www.maximumpc.com/amds_catalyst_141_drivers_are_incoming_mantle_update_and_more#sthash.T39Jlpur.dpuf[/url]) [maximumpc.com]"
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: Growler on January 30, 2014, 10:42:44 pm
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/news/view/bf4-mantle-live/last/ (http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/news/view/bf4-mantle-live/last/)

25% boost on FX-8350 + 79703gb
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: bigROBOTbill on January 31, 2014, 07:35:09 am
^^ 25% sounds wonderful that's exactly my rigl! :)
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: Bounty Hunter on January 31, 2014, 07:52:27 am
How many megabixels is it?

1259 Mega's
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: benlav on January 31, 2014, 08:40:38 am
I have a 1.24GB update going through now.

this will be helpful

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Performance tools

To simplify measuring performance in the game we’ve added a new tool to the in-game console to record frame times for later analysis. Simply run “PerfOverlay.FrameFileLogEnable 1″ to start saving frame times and “PerfOverlay.FrameFileLogEnable 0″ to stop. The resulting .csv file will be located in Documents/Battlefield 4 which can be opened & graphed by Excel or other applications for viewing.Another in-game tool that is useful to use is “Render.DrawScreenInfo 1″ that will now show additional on-screen information about your CPU & GPU config, resolution and as well as if Mantle or DirectX 11 is used for rendering.


Fuck me, downloaded the 1.54GB in 5 mins...... very happy with that on a standard 15mbps download speed.

Edit: the Catalyst 14.1 beta isn't available yet...

http://www.custompcreview.com/news/amd-catalyst-14-beta-driver-enables-mantle-frame-pacing-fix-hsa-support/19954/ (http://www.custompcreview.com/news/amd-catalyst-14-beta-driver-enables-mantle-frame-pacing-fix-hsa-support/19954/)

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The AMD Catalyst 14.1 Beta driver is expected to be available at AMD’s website sometime today.

Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: Growler on January 31, 2014, 10:09:14 am
People across the board are saying huge improvements to the game. This is without mantle.

Smoother, hit boxes working, on HC friendly markers are better, tank aiming fixed, fps boost in general too.

Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: Lias on January 31, 2014, 10:09:27 am
Will mantle work with older AMD GPU's? like my 5850's? or only GCN cards?

Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: Growler on January 31, 2014, 10:21:27 am
Only GCN.

Im going to wait for benches, a 270x for $330 could be a superb UG
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: benlav on January 31, 2014, 10:31:24 am
I have a feeling the catalyst 14.1 update is available, as the site is down....

edit - never mind, is was my computer...
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: Speakman on January 31, 2014, 06:41:54 pm
Only GCN.

Im going to wait for benches, a 270x for $330 could be a superb UG

This is what I'm thinking upgrade wise as well, shall see once things settle down
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: CSfaith on January 31, 2014, 07:21:24 pm
Running a 270x atm (sapphire vapour X) superb card for bf4 @ 1920 x 1080
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: Bounty Hunter on January 31, 2014, 07:37:13 pm
People across the board are saying huge improvements to the game. This is without mantle.

Smoother, hit boxes working, on HC friendly markers are better, tank aiming fixed, fps boost in general too.

I'm still getting some pretty bogus deaths.

performance for me has suffered, I dipped to 50fps momentarily today.

shotguns are the new noob tube, even more noobier than rockets.
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: BeNZene on February 01, 2014, 08:52:25 am

http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/update_on_amd_catalyst_14_1_mantle_driver_release.html (http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/update_on_amd_catalyst_14_1_mantle_driver_release.html)

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During the QA process, we identified an installation issue in AMD Catalyst 14.1 that renders it unsuitable for distribution for testing in your labs. We are testing a new build overnight and will update you on its status by mid-afternoon Eastern Standard Time on January 31. We apologize for the delay and appreciate your patience and understanding.
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: CSfaith on February 02, 2014, 09:53:38 am
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_mantle_preview,1.html (http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_mantle_preview,1.html)

Press release driver is live. Not far away for public !
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: bigROBOTbill on February 02, 2014, 06:40:46 pm
Got them and had a quick play, went from about 60 fps average to 80. Nice!
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: Growler on February 02, 2014, 07:10:45 pm
just installed, but I am still on the 6900 boat.

I am due to build a new rig in the next few weeks so a solid review of the 280x etc with a i7 or a new kaveri could be sweet.
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: SmiLinSniPeR on February 02, 2014, 11:54:28 pm
Getting drivers now will report back once tested.
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: CSfaith on February 03, 2014, 12:29:35 am
@growler

280x = 7970, if anything future proof yourself and spend the extra 80 or so and get a custom 290. Rapes the shit out of everything.
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: kilabee on February 03, 2014, 05:53:12 am
Doesn't work with crossfire.Just so you know.
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: SmiLinSniPeR on February 03, 2014, 09:50:33 am
Tested last night on a 7850 @ 1680x1050  all settings ultra @ 45 fps avg.  Not much difference fps wise but seemed smooth no massive frame drops etc maybe some subtle improvements but will wait on more mature drivers.
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: Growler on February 03, 2014, 11:47:46 am
what CPU Smilin?
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: benlav on February 03, 2014, 01:28:00 pm
Im seeing solid improvements on high. Stil spiking down on ultra.
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: SmiLinSniPeR on February 04, 2014, 09:39:34 pm
@ Growler

FX6100 @ 3.30GHZ (Stock speed) and 8 gig ram
Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: Growler on February 05, 2014, 08:18:45 am
Smilin, the 7850 may not have been profiled yet for mantle.

BUT

it would be worth trying the core thing to make sure of any changes.

So make sure you did a 100% uninstall of your old driver. Best app linked below for it!

DDU http://www.wagnardmobile.com/DDU/ (http://www.wagnardmobile.com/DDU/)

Then install new 14.1.

then write a line of code into your BF4 prefs/config the number at the end is relevant to your processor, so 4, 6, 8 etc

try this, nothing to lose and everything to gain!

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01. Go to >>> C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games\Battlefield 4

((NOTE)) If you're running windows 8, go to VIEW > make sure "File Name Extensions" is checked... If your running Win7 go to VIEW > FOLDER OPTIONS > make sure "view File Name Extensions" is checked. If it isn't then you can't change the extension (aka file type) of a file, and it will save it as text.

02. Right-Click inside the window > NEW > Text Document >>> and name it "user.cfg"

03. Ok... open user.cfg in a text editor (I like Edit Pad Pro, but you can use Windows Notepad just fine)

04. Type "Thread.MaxProcessorCount" (no quotes, no space before it)

05. add a space after the command, then type in the number of processors YOU HAVE (or less)

Quad Core = Thread.MaxProcessorCount 4
Six Core = Thread.MaxProcessorCount 6
Eight Core = Thread.MaxProcessorCount 8
etc...

BONUS!!! - You can also mess around with these settings as well:

Screenshot.Format png
UI.DrawEnable 1
PerfOverlay.DrawFps 0
PerfOverlay.DrawGraph 0
PerfOverlay.Enable 1
GameTime.MaxVariableFps 60.000000
PostProcess.DynamicAOEnable 1
Render.DrawScreenInfo 0
RenderDevice.Dx11Enable 1
RenderDevice.ForceRenderAheadLimit 1
RenderDevice.TripleBufferingEnable 1
WorldRender.DxDeferredCsPathEnable 1
WorldRender.FxaaEnable 1
WorldRender.MotionBlurEnable 1
WorldRender.SpotLightShadowmapEnable 1
WorldRender.SpotLightShadowmapResolution 1024
WorldRender.TransparencyShadowmapsEnable 1

06. SAVE... close... done with user.cfg


07. NEXT... Go to >>> C:\Users\YOURNAME\Documents\Battlefield 4\settings

08. Open "PROFSAVE_profile" with Notepad (or Edit Pad Pro... it's awesome)

09. Make a new line anywhere, bottom top, middle, doesn't matter...

10. Copy+Paste the same line you put in user.cfg... "Thread.MaxProcessorCount #" (no quotes, no space before it)

11. SAVE... CLOSE... Right-Click the file > Properties > Check READ ONLY... DONE

REMEMBER THIS: Origin will always ask you to use cloud data or local data after you change the PROFSAVE_profile... always select LOCAL DATA, or your file will be overwritten with whatever the last saved settings were. ;)

ANOTHER BONUS!!! - If you want a better way to change your settings (and more of them) outside of the game, check out the Battlefield 4 Settings Editor [battlefield.realmware.co.uk]. It's got a few more settings (some can easily be changed in user.cfg or PROFSAVE_profile, but it's a neat little program, and it lets you save profiles if you want different settings for maybe Singleplayer and Multiplayer... NOTE: if you do use the settings editor, then DO NOT check READ ONLY in PROFSAVE_profile or the program won't be able to save your settings. This also prevents any chance of accidentally reverting to defaults.



Title: Re: Update now, Mantle tomorrow apparently
Post by: SmiLinSniPeR on February 08, 2014, 08:34:56 pm
Will test this out in the next day or so (kids permitting) cheers for the info Growler :)