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General Chat / Anyone got a song stuck in their head?
« on: January 27, 2010, 02:02:32 pm »
Damn emos...GET OUT OF MY HEAD !!!

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General Chat / Chill out!
« on: January 21, 2010, 06:41:09 pm »
Cant chill, to emo listening to the Smiths...

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General Chat / awesome vids
« on: January 15, 2010, 08:33:19 pm »
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General Chat / Random Images
« on: January 07, 2010, 05:45:27 pm »
Quote from: Chilli;1046823
Before you know it we'll have whales crowding the beaches, coming ashore and being idiots in the local bars, not to mention all the whale shit in the surf :disappoin



So who are you today champ ? the reincarnation of John Lennon ?...all 3 of the 3 stooges ?...at least you have the honour of being the first and only person i have ever put on the ignore list at Gamerconz.

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General Chat / Random Images
« on: January 07, 2010, 02:01:09 pm »
Tbh who gives a fuck, he has every right to ram and sink any whaler afloat imo...no one is farming whales, no one is using them as a renewable resource...they just want to harpoon them into oblivion...seriously, some of you guys wont be happy until we have pushed every single animal into extinction will you.

More power to the Sea Shepard...and a slow, painful death to all whalers everywhere.

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General Chat / RELIGION VS SCIENCE:The Ultimate Battle Thread
« on: December 11, 2009, 10:30:53 pm »
Also made me lol when she said "we welcome rational discussion".

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General Chat / RELIGION VS SCIENCE:The Ultimate Battle Thread
« on: December 10, 2009, 02:51:11 pm »
OSHO rocks my socks...

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General Chat / awesome vids
« on: October 18, 2009, 02:39:21 pm »
I dont see anyone "dissing" him...all i see is some loud mouthed tool with a massive chip on his shoulder tbh.

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General Chat / RELIGION VS SCIENCE:The Ultimate Battle Thread
« on: August 27, 2008, 10:50:51 pm »
Quote from: brucewillis2;784610


I don't believe in god because there is nothing to believe in. A bible, it's just a book written thousands of years ago and gone through some alterations along the way I'm sure. I'm hardly going to change my life for a book. But if god came down and performed miracles - now that's another story.


Yea but im talking about a hypothetical situation where the bible has been proven to be fact...and thus God does exist....and he did indeed create the Earth , universe and all things etc etc......pretty bloody miraculous if you ask me.

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General Chat / RELIGION VS SCIENCE:The Ultimate Battle Thread
« on: August 27, 2008, 09:12:33 pm »
Quote from: Zarkov;784488
It was him or Arnie.

maybe we should have had a vote.


Voting is for pussy's (no pun intended)...dictatorship FTW !!!!

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General Chat / RELIGION VS SCIENCE:The Ultimate Battle Thread
« on: August 27, 2008, 07:56:49 pm »
Ape, hes been banned....but good work on the massive response.

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General Chat / RELIGION VS SCIENCE:The Ultimate Battle Thread
« on: August 27, 2008, 04:07:13 pm »
Comtemplate this.....

What would happen if the bible was somehow magically proven to be totally factual, if it was proven to be correct and an actual account of events ?
Heaven and hell actually do exist as described in the bible, same with angels and demons etc.

Would this change the way you live ?
How would it affect world politics ?
Would murderers still murder, rapists still rape etc ?
How would other religions deal with it ?
How would fundamentalists deal with it ?...crusade ?
How would fundamentalists from other religions deal with it ?

Remember, this is the actual bible that is factual, which means homosexuality is a sin, so is sex before marrige, drinking of alcohol and anything else that is detrimental to your health or the well being of the planet.

I showed a mate this thread, he read the last 5 pages or so...and asked these questions...and hes realy keen to see what you guys say.

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General Chat / RELIGION VS SCIENCE:The Ultimate Battle Thread
« on: August 21, 2008, 10:20:44 am »
Happy 3rd birthday religion thread :bounce::bounce::bounce:

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General Chat / RELIGION VS SCIENCE:The Ultimate Battle Thread
« on: August 21, 2008, 12:13:04 am »
Ok maybe not unimportant, rather, "less" important than the actual suffering.

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General Chat / RELIGION VS SCIENCE:The Ultimate Battle Thread
« on: August 20, 2008, 11:00:09 pm »
WTF ? since when have Jesus and God been the same "person"...jesus was Gods son, born to a mortal woman to spread gods word on Earth.....and my understanding is that the actual act of dying was unimportant, it was the suffering he recieved at the hands of man that was the important part of the story.

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General Chat / RELIGION VS SCIENCE:The Ultimate Battle Thread
« on: August 20, 2008, 01:41:41 pm »
Quote from: dirtyape;779757







I think there are such things as selfless agendas. It seems you have not differentiated between the selfish and the selfless. In fact you are implying is that everyone is naturally selfish.

Not wanting to see someone suffer is a selfless agenda. You could probably analyse it deeper and explain why you did not want to see them suffer, perhaps it revolts you, perhaps you can imagine what it would be like to be them, which in turn causes you distress. But is that a reward? Is not watching someone suffer a reward in itself???

For instance, I once helped an old lady who was trying to take out her wheelie bin. She was small, it was big. I decided to help because I didn't like to see her struggle needlessly.

Is that not selfless?


Read again previous posts...i was advocating the positive by argueing the negative.....at least i think thats what i was doing.

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General Chat / RELIGION VS SCIENCE:The Ultimate Battle Thread
« on: August 20, 2008, 12:51:06 pm »
Quote from: mish;779713
I gave someone on the street directions today, whilst running late.
What was my secret agenda?


Why didnt you tell them to fuck of ? or just ignore them completely...how would that have made you feel about yourself ?...not very good ?
Did it brighten your day... even for a split second to help someone out ?

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General Chat / RELIGION VS SCIENCE:The Ultimate Battle Thread
« on: August 20, 2008, 12:46:32 pm »
Quote from: Ngati_Grim;779711


The individual 'sallie' on the street wants to help their fellow man because they want to drag 'him' out of sin. They are doing this because they are members of an organisation that promotes this as a way to 'god'.


Then why would they set up shop in a place like Aranui ? why would they take boxes of food every week to a family of dedicated Mongrel Mob members who they know they have absolutely no chance of converting or "dragging out of sin " ?...

Labelling an individual because of the goals of the organisation they work for is assuming an awful lot....and you know what they say about assumption....

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General Chat / RELIGION VS SCIENCE:The Ultimate Battle Thread
« on: August 20, 2008, 12:30:26 pm »
Quote from: Ngati_Grim;779669
I wouldn't call it a selfless act of kindness because it contains an agenda (see bolded below)

Yes, there are good works done. I just wish that they were more open about their 'behind the scenes' Mission, which in the case of the 'Army' is: The ultimate mission of The Salvation Army is to bring the whole world under the Christian umbrella.



But following that logic, would it not be impossible for anyone to commit a selfless act of kindness ?
Everything , everyone does has some sort of agenda, even at a very basic level...even helping some old lady across the street because it makes you feel good could be considered "having an agenda".
I dont believe for one second that all Sallys are out there only doing good work because they secretly want to convert mankind....that maybe the organisations ultimate goal...but that doesnt change the fact that the individual sally on the street just wants to help their fellow man.

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General Chat / RELIGION VS SCIENCE:The Ultimate Battle Thread
« on: August 20, 2008, 10:52:55 am »
Ngati, every single person on the planet has their own agenda, the salvation army is no different, but that doesnt change the fact that they do a hell of a lot of good for their local community.

I was raised in Aranui, Hampshire st, back in the day it was one of the most violent places in NZ...and the sallys were right in the middle of it....i personaly saw them being spit on, beat up, bricks thrown at them, threatened with death....but all that didnt stop them....you could threaten to stab them and then go ask them for a feed the very next day and they wouldnt bat an eyelid as they gave you something to eat.

They never preached, they asked if you were interested or wanted to talk about god but they never pushed it on you......i would call that selfless acts of kindness.

As you point out, there are some negatives....but from what ive seen they are far out-weighed by their positive actions.

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General Chat / RELIGION VS SCIENCE:The Ultimate Battle Thread
« on: August 20, 2008, 09:48:13 am »
Quote from: cobra;779562
no i said christianity is a hate group, a group that promotes hatred



Thats so far from the truth its ridiculous...
Ever heard of the Salvation army, a group that works tirelessly for the benefit of the community for absolutely no benefit to themselves other than to help those less fortunate.

Take democracy for example....great evil is being done in the name of democracy...does that make everyone who believes in democracy an evil, hate-loving war monger...no, it doesnt.

Christianity is an ideal based on "love thy fellow man", sure some people twist an manipulate its teachings to suit their own selfish desires, but that happens with any ideal or doctrane ever invented.....to label christianity as a hate group because of some out of date 2000 year old words or the actions of some rabid fundamentalists is just stupid.....but it does speak volumes about the sort of person you are.

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General Chat / RELIGION VS SCIENCE:The Ultimate Battle Thread
« on: August 19, 2008, 06:10:25 pm »
Quote from: dirtyape;779329
What you are describing is not Christian. Christians follow Christ, and that description of Christ comes from the bible - however they interpret it. If they do not believe the bible fundamentals then are they really following Christ? No, they are following their own Christ. And then - are they Christian?

I mean why even call it Christ? What value does the name have if it is not the Christ described in the bible?


Dont christians follow God ? the bible is Gods word is it not ? maybe someone else can elaborate further there....

Of all the millions of christians on the planet i bet there arent two of them that interprut "gods word" exactly the same way...certainly different churchs teach thier own interprutations of the bible, but i wouldnt count one less christian than the other.

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General Chat / RELIGION VS SCIENCE:The Ultimate Battle Thread
« on: August 19, 2008, 04:00:48 pm »
Quote from: dirtyape;779186




But does everyone realise this? Some wish it not to be true so much that it clouds their judgement. Some wish to ignore our reptilian heritage. Whatever there reasons it usually comes back to, in my opinion, arrogance. A presumption that humans are different, superior, chosen.



I dont believe thats the case for the vast marjority of christians, i think most christians are christian out of a desire to lead a moral, wholesome, worthwhile life....if there was no such thing as the bible i think most of these people would still lead a good moral life...its a shame that they have to use the bible to justify this moral existence...

I would be much happier about christianity if church leaders said "look, we all know the bible is just a story book, it is not real and is not meant to be taken as such, but the message it teachs is as important and relavent today as it was 2000 years ago, and will be in another 2000 years....love thy neighbour, do unto others etc"

I think this approach would be far more successful and useful for mankind as a whole...hell, i might even join in.

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General Chat / RELIGION VS SCIENCE:The Ultimate Battle Thread
« on: August 19, 2008, 11:01:22 am »
Quote from: Baltimore;779088
No, I'm saying that nature came up with it but using the existence of carnivores as proof of the existence or non-existence of some God is a flawed argument. The "meat is murder" line is not proof of the non-existence of a deity. It is merely a belief of people who do not wish to eat meat. Which actually makes it a religion of sorts as well ;).


Who the hell do you think made "nature" what it is ?
We are not talking about people here, we are talking about animals, which have no choice in what they have to eat in order to survive....and no, it is not a flawed arguement, it is the very heart of the problem for me.....
What sort of sick, twisted, sadistic prick would invent an animal that can only survive by tearing another living creature to pieces ?

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General Chat / RELIGION VS SCIENCE:The Ultimate Battle Thread
« on: August 19, 2008, 09:01:34 am »
Quote from: Baltimore;779004
The Lion a proud and majestic animal? Only because over the course of history humans, particularly humans from western and eastern cultures, have been programmed to think of them as such. I'm sure the local families in Africa don't think of them as majestic. Lions, and all carnivores for that matter, are a vital part of the ecosystem. Lions cull the herds of the weak and infirm because it is in their nature, but it also helps the herds. It also prevents the planet being overrun with zebras and such. Your argument that Lions kill herbivores therefore God is either non-existent or something you would not hold in high regard is somewhat simplistic. Most creatures on the planet are vital, be they regarded as majestic, cruel or wonderful. I'm sure there is even a reason for fleas (no offence intended there Flea :laff:). That is the nature of nature.




Are you trying to tell me that the God that invented the stars, the planets, indeed the whole universe, couldnt come up with a better idea to deal with the weak and infirm other than to tear it limb from limb and have something else eat it ???  whos being simplistic now....thats not nature, thats murder.

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