Get Some
General => General Chat => Topic started by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on April 23, 2013, 01:55:37 pm
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Because they have Lamborghini Aventadors
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/news/video.cfm?c_id=1503084&gal_cid=1503084&gallery_id=132390
(http://stwot.motortrend.com/files/2013/04/Lamborghini-Aventador-Dubai-Police-car-front-three-quarter-close.jpg)
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Wow.
What a huge waste of money.
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Wow.
What a huge waste of money.
not really - I am pretty sure Scotland yard have a few lambos as well - its hard to pull someone in a supercar capable of doing 200+ mph when your patrol car tops out at 150 mph.
Hell most helicopters don't get much above 150 mph - the lynx is rated to 200 Mph and the record is for 249....
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It kinda is.
What the hell are you going to do if you need to hit that speed to catch someone?
"Oh shit, dis guy is going 200 hunna K's, I betta stop" - said no criminal ever. And they're not exactly going to use the Lambo as a battering ram to fish tail speeders...
The amount of training and skill it takes to handle a car of that calibre also, you just can't drop in a casual street-cop in the drivers seat and expect him to use the car to its full potential.
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not really - I am pretty sure Scotland yard have a few lambos as well - its hard to pull someone in a supercar capable of doing 200+ mph when your patrol car tops out at 150 mph.
Hell most helicopters don't get much above 150 mph - the lynx is rated to 200 Mph and the record is for 249....
Yes but a car will only do 200mph constantly for about 45 minutes where a helicopter can do 200mph for 4 hours....
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It's mostly for show. They'll drive it around the rich tourist areas. Because when rich tourists get arrested, they want to get arrested in style.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBB/Kawasaki_BK_117
Max. Speed 155km/h
This is a similar model to the Lifeflight Rescue Helo down here in Welly.
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[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBB/Kawasaki_BK_117[/url]
Max. Speed 155km/h
This is a similar model to the Lifeflight Rescue Helo down here in Welly.
they definitely need to put bigger engines in them
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Piece of shit will catch on fire anyway.
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Jelly nerds all up in dis fread
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not really - I am pretty sure Scotland yard have a few lambos as well - its hard to pull someone in a supercar capable of doing 200+ mph when your patrol car tops out at 150 mph.
Hell most helicopters don't get much above 150 mph - the lynx is rated to 200 Mph and the record is for 249....
Since when was a helicopter not the most effective thing the police have ever used to catch speeding criminals?
Since when was chasing criminals @ 150MPh+ in another car effective?
This is a "my ginormous dick, look at it" gesture. If they really had intent to catch speeding criminals, they would be buying this.
(http://www.safetydevicesupply.com/product/10-3-1-1b.jpg)
Top speed: 0MPh
Stops 99% of cars at any speed.
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Takes all the fun out of it though!
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Land mines would be more fun!
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[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBB/Kawasaki_BK_117[/url]
Max. Speed 155km/h
This is a similar model to the Lifeflight Rescue Helo down here in Welly.
This is what the eagle unit in auckland use:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocopter_AS355#Specifications_.28AS355F2.29
Here's a post I made on kiwibiker about hypothetically being chased by a helicopter:
This really isn't a question about speed, it's about stamina
So a bike is only going to sit on 300km/h for half an hour before its tank is empty? so the furthest you can go from any point is only ~150km
A police helicopter can top out at 280km/h, but can do so for much longer (I think it'd be about 4 times longer, but as we're about to see it only needs to be a little bit longer)
Given that you can only out run a police chopper in basically a straight line we'll run with the following:
The police helicopter would get 139km before you ran out of gas at 150km, so it's 11km away, and closing at 278km/h which gives you 2 minutes and 20 seconds to refuel and/or find somewhere to hide.
So I'd only attempt a runner from a helicopter if I was on an adventure bike, I'd hike it into the high country where no cop car could follow, and just work away at the helicopter and hope he ran out of gas first, this would give me at least 40 minutes (they have a 20 minute reserve tank) to refuel and find somewhere else to hide.
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[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBB/Kawasaki_BK_117[/url]
Max. Speed 155km/h
This is a similar model to the Lifeflight Rescue Helo down here in Welly.
*Links to Wikipedia articles where it states 155 mph.
*Posts 155 km/h on forum.
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they definitely need to put bigger engines in them
its not the engine size that limits the speed of a heli - its retreating blade stall.
I still maintain that it is necessary when policing areas that have a high number of supercar ownership. its the same logic why in the UK there are various branches that use Mitsi Evos and Subarus (which aren't common in the UK in the same way they are over here)
While I concede it may be an academic argument as to whether or not it would be an advantage or not - there are 2 things to bear in mind:
1: public image - if the average clientel in an area are able to outrun or outgun the police then the police look bad (and certainly dubai would meet the critiera of having average clientel owning supercars)
2: Psychological factor - if I am hooning away from the police in a powerful car and leaving the average police cars behind and then suddenly I have a lambo on my tail that is able to match me corner for corner, speed for speed - it provides a huge psychological motivation to give up - you know that you aren't going to be able to get away, might as well give up.
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*Links to Wikipedia articles where it states 155 mph.
*Posts 155 km/h on forum.
I have shamed myself, I must commit sepuku!
However, before I go and make a mess of the lounge carpet, I would point out that cars have to drive on roads and go around corners, helicopters don't.
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1: public image - if the average clientel in an area are able to outrun or outgun the police then the police look bad (and certainly dubai would meet the critiera of having average clientel owning supercars)
2: Psychological factor - if I am hooning away from the police in a powerful car and leaving the average police cars behind and then suddenly I have a lambo on my tail that is able to match me corner for corner, speed for speed - it provides a huge psychological motivation to give up - you know that you aren't going to be able to get away, might as well give up.
I'm not sure if many people in a car chase think this at all, of all the car chases I've seen from american television it's always a fat american in an average piece of shit being chased by more fat americans in equally piece of shit cars.
America is a bit of a key factor there though...
I have shamed myself, I must commit sepuku!
However, before I go and make a mess of the lounge carpet, I would point out that cars have to drive on roads and go around corners, helicopters don't.
helicopters have a hard time changing direction, bikes on the isle of man leave them standing.
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I'm not sure if many people in a car chase think this at all, of all the car chases I've seen from american television it's always a fat american in an average piece of shit being chased by more fat americans in equally piece of shit cars.
America is a bit of a key factor there though...
Too true on that point - there was a UK based cop show though where a guy in a Porsche out drove the Police Heli, and all the pursuit cars, he ended up parking the car, calling his lawyer and then waiting for the police to catch up.
I wish I could remember the series name but alas it escapes me.
Another point to raise is Cruising speed vs Vne (velocity never exceed) a lot of the figures quoted in this thread for heli speeds are for Vne, which even the bravest pilots are unlikely to sit at Vne for very long periods of time (as generally they run the risk of retreating blade stalls or exceeding the structural limitations of the air frame - both of which aren't very wise)
generally even when pushing it, most pilots will sit 10-20 Knots under Vne to make sure that a gust of wind doesn't push them over or that they aren't over-stressing the air frame.
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helicopters have a hard time changing direction, bikes on the isle of man leave them standing.
I know some 3 Squadron pilots that can thrown an Iroquois around pretty well!
Also, we were talking about cars, now you're talking about bikes? Back to the lavatory with you!
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People like this is why they can afford to and need to have Lambo's as their squad cars.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/9406ac58a3ab7d2578cd861759f9b39e/tumblr_mlow55xMFE1qdlh1io1_250.gif)
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Too true on that point - there was a UK based cop show though where a guy in a Porsche out drove the Police Heli, and all the pursuit cars, he ended up parking the car, calling his lawyer and then waiting for the police to catch up.
I wish I could remember the series name but alas it escapes me.
Another point to raise is Cruising speed vs Vne (velocity never exceed) a lot of the figures quoted in this thread for heli speeds are for Vne, which even the bravest pilots are unlikely to sit at Vne for very long periods of time (as generally they run the risk of retreating blade stalls or exceeding the structural limitations of the air frame - both of which aren't very wise)
generally even when pushing it, most pilots will sit 10-20 Knots under Vne to make sure that a gust of wind doesn't push them over or that they aren't over-stressing the air frame.
even at cruising speed you only have a few seconds more to fuel up again before the chopper is on top of you....
I know some 3 Squadron pilots that can thrown an Iroquois around pretty well!
Also, we were talking about cars, now you're talking about bikes? Back to the lavatory with you!
It was a post I made on kiwibiker, it's the same story for a luxury sports car, except it'll cost you 25x more money to do so.
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People like this is why they can afford to and need to have Lambo's as their squad cars.
([url]http://24.media.tumblr.com/9406ac58a3ab7d2578cd861759f9b39e/tumblr_mlow55xMFE1qdlh1io1_250.gif[/url])
I love how some guy just hands him a thick wad of cash.
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Do you not have goons following you round handing you cash like that? Sheesh! Monkeys..
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Do you not have goons following you round handing you cash like that? Sheesh! Monkeys..
Of course. That's why I love it so much.
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Unless the criminals have Nissan GTR's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI9CQd3UeTQ
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thats lol's ... invest the cash into the lambo that they put into the gtr and then have a race the lambo is stock 700hp the gtr is tweaked to 700hp with a bigger hairdryer and prolly internals as well .. all these folk that go on about gtr's blah blah blah yeah as a stock car they wouldn't stand a chance.
http://www.lamborghini.com/en/models/aventador-lp-700-4/technical-specifications/
[URL=http://www.nissangtr-nz.com/en/web_GTR/GT-R/show.html?superid=6&subid=1]http://www.nissangtr-nz.com/en/web_GTR/GT-R/show.html?superid=6&subid=1
(http://www.lamborghini.com/en/models/aventador-lp-700-4/technical-specifications/)
[/URL]game over!
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And a Lambo costs 1000000x more and will most likely breakdown before you get out the driveway. :p
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And a Lambo costs 1000000x more and will most likely breakdown before you get out the driveway. :p
haha too true :P but the people that own cars like that generally dont have too much worry about that stuff cause the other one in the garage will do ... well that or the Ferrari 458 cause the bentley is only good for 150 mph.
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the bentley is only good for 150 mph.
You bought the wrong Bentley
http://www.bentleymotors.com/models/continental_gt/performance/
And its AWD
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Unless the criminals have Nissan GTR's
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI9CQd3UeTQ[/url]
Oh dem Russians.
Love how he calls out "280" then starts to slow down, but the counter in the top right keeps going up to 300Km/h, lols.
There's also a third car that dicks the GTR, but doesn't get mentioned.