War on terror

[Xsannz]

on the Xenophobia subject , you have many cultures in South Africa, but what is worse is that South Africa is descending now into reverse apartheid and xenophobic wars where the majority party is killing off any other ""ethnic"" group,   in this case the zulus are knocking of the European, Swahili , the Xhosa, the list goes on and on, all because they are different, yet there is no public media outrage, why because South Africa has a moratorium on its news.

Again apart from the political motivations that drive the Xenophobia, the biggest cause is religion.

[The Demon Lord]

And then you have to ask, why is that? What is causing this exclusion & solidarity?

That is probably the most interesting question:

Most migrants from a refugee/3rd world/lower socio-economic groups - Typically they have come from either a semi-tribal back ground, small rural background or areas where the government/police are highly corrupt.

As a result there is a mindset of not talking to officials, not wanting to have problems (particularly those that might bring shame to the family) dealt with in the public domain and an inherint distrust of those outside of their community:

'This is a Muslim issue - not anyone else business'

And so a culture of trying to deal with everything internally and sweeping it all under the rug develops - which only exponentially increases the problem.

I am not saying that the opposition groups in the UK are lilly white (in fact many of them are just racist groups with a thin veneer on top) but the islamic community by its inaction, and insular behaviour have had a massive part to play in the problems that they face, and until they pull finger and start behaving like 1st world citizens, the issues shall continue

[Pyromanik]

On the other hand, I could just call that pragmatism. Cops can't do shit in this country.
It's almost to the point where folks would have more faith in well run militia groups (as opposed to street justice).

But it is a valid point. However I disagree the slight overtone of racism, on the very grounds of it. Muslims are first world citizens.
But then on the other hand again I guess you meant more in terms of developing nations vs scumbag white pig fat cat run by a clueless wanker domains.

But you raise a more respectable debate on customs and such.

[Xenolightning]

on the Xenophobia subject , you have many cultures in South Africa, but what is worse is that South Africa is descending now into reverse apartheid and xenophobic wars where the majority party is killing off any other ""ethnic"" group,   in this case the zulus are knocking of the European, Swahili , the Xhosa, the list goes on and on, all because they are different, yet there is no public media outrage, why because South Africa has a moratorium on its news.

Again apart from the political motivations that drive the Xenophobia, the biggest cause is religion.

You gotta problem, m8?

[Xsannz]

on the Xenophobia subject , you have many cultures in South Africa, but what is worse is that South Africa is descending now into reverse apartheid and xenophobic wars where the majority party is killing off any other ""ethnic"" group,   in this case the zulus are knocking of the European, Swahili , the Xhosa, the list goes on and on, all because they are different, yet there is no public media outrage, why because South Africa has a moratorium on its news.

Again apart from the political motivations that drive the Xenophobia, the biggest cause is religion.

You gotta problem, m8?

I got a YOU PHOBIA, lol

[The Demon Lord]

On the other hand, I could just call that pragmatism. Cops can't do shit in this country.
It's almost to the point where folks would have more faith in well run militia groups (as opposed to street justice).

But it is a valid point. However I disagree the slight overtone of racism, on the very grounds of it. Muslims are first world citizens.
But then on the other hand again I guess you meant more in terms of developing nations vs scumbag white pig fat cat run by a clueless wanker domains.

But you raise a more respectable debate on customs and such.

Certainly the police can be ineffective, but it is still the right way to do things - other options should only be tried when all other avenues of redress have been exhausted.

The overtone of Racism, was not so much implied as more an observation, that small ethnic communities display very similar behaviors that we see in the 3rd world - in particular small tribal/village communities - despite living in modern population centers, compared with others who live in the same area.

most of us who grew up in a first world country don't exhibit these same behaviors - some could argue that it is something we have lost (ie concern for ones immediate neighbor, loss of a sense of community) but I would add that it has enabled us to rid ourselves of some of the more dangerous and insular habits that comes with the small community mindset.

And in that sense - it is what I mean by being a first world citizen. Someone can live in the first world, but by their actions and mannerism still be IMO a 3rd world citizen

[The Demon Lord]

http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/jail-for-mum-who-promoted-terror-on-facebook/ar-BBgEPeA?ocid=iehp

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.