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General => Technology & Hardware => Topic started by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on June 19, 2012, 12:52:57 pm
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MS are entering the tablet market with thier own tablet hardware.
(http://www.microsoft.com/global/surface/en/us/publishingimages/new/hero.jpg)
It will come in two flavours, a lighter ARM based table, with Windows RT, which can only run ARM applications. And one with a Inter i5 chip, which will let it run the full version of Windows 8 Pro.
It comes with a detachable keyboard which also doubles as a cover, there is also a slightly harder, thicker, blacker keyboard cover.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/257840/microsoft_announces_new_surface_tablet_pc.html
Windows RT Version Specs
- 676 grams
- 9.3 millimeters thick
- 10.6” ClearType HD Display
- 31.5 hours of battery life
- microSD, USB 2.0, Micro HD Video, 2x2 MIMO antennae
- Office Home & Student 2013 RT, Touch Cover, Type Cover
- VaporMg Case & Stand
- Configurable for 32 GB, 64 GB
Windows 8 Pro Specs
- 903 grams
- 13.5 millimeters thick
- 10.6” ClearType Full HD Display
- 42 hours of battery life
- microSDXC, USB 3.0, Mini DisplayPort Video, 2x2 MIMO antennae
- Touch Cover, Type Cover, Pen with Palm Block
- VaporMg Case & Stand
- Configurable for 64 GB, 128 GB
The hardware looks good, question is price.
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Too much functionality, I doubt it will catch on.
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Totes excited about this.
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Too much functionality, I doubt it will catch on.
How is too much functionality a bad thing?
How does it have too much functionality?
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I like it.
Will be interesting to see how it runs.
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Like the idea of the arm version, Intel version meh
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Could be quite a good one.
Still prefer to avoid microsoft wherever possible, oh and screw apple for the record.
*all opinions raised are from an android fanboy
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How is too much functionality a bad thing?
How does it have too much functionality?
The keyboard that barely anyone will use.
It's the whole 80/20 thing, most people want a tablet as an angry birds machine/e-reader/status symbol. The fluff (like funny folding keyboards) unnecessarily confuses these people. Apple has that market cornered.
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The keyboard that barely anyone will use.
It's the whole 80/20 thing, most people want a tablet as an angry birds machine/e-reader/status symbol. The fluff (like funny folding keyboards) unnecessarily confuses these people. Apple has that market cornered.
But for the business market - I can see these things taking hold, as good as Ipads are, there are a lot of things that they don't natively or easily support (apart from Exchange). We are itching to get our mitts on one of these at my work
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...illustrating the 80/20 rule. Yes, for a minority of customers the extra features will be a major selling point, but for most they'll just be meh, and add extra weight and cost to the product.
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Wait, how does that apply here? I must be looking at it the wrong way.
I would have thought that the people you described would form the majority, not the 20% causing 80% of the design features.
I agree with you though that the detachable keyboard will probably stay detached for the most part.
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The keyboard that barely anyone will use.
It's the whole 80/20 thing, most people want a tablet as an angry birds machine/e-reader/status symbol. The fluff (like funny folding keyboards) unnecessarily confuses these people. Apple has that market cornered.
People barely use keyboards? That's news to me. Am I typing this with my mind?
Apple has the tablet as an angry birds machine/e-reader/status symbol market cornered.
This is a tablet that can run Word and Excell, and the full version of windows, and any program that runs on windows (included any windows based game), hence a detatchable keyboard is a usefull addition.
If a detatchable keyboard confuses people, then they are idiots.
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This is precisely what some of my business clients want. Mobile windows platform which integrates nicely with existing systems. I have some peers that are implementing large scale iPad deployments in business environments. They'll be fucken gutted haha
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If a detatchable keyboard confuses people, then they are idiots.
And if they are idiots, they probably own an Apple product.. ;-P
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People barely use keyboards? That's news to me. Am I typing this with my mind?
Apple has the tablet as an angry birds machine/e-reader/status symbol market cornered.
This is a tablet that can run Word and Excell, and the full version of windows, and any program that runs on windows (included any windows based game), hence a detatchable keyboard is a usefull addition.
If a detatchable keyboard confuses people, then they are idiots.
Then it's just a touchscreen laptop. Sorry, but I just can't see this having too many points of differentiation from a laptop for a lot of consumers.
Who knows, maybe you're right about it catching on in business, but I'm not sure that the interface looks ideal for spreadsheets and shit.
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Then it's just a touchscreen laptop. Sorry, but I just can't see this having too many points of differentiation from a laptop for a lot of consumers.
Who knows, maybe you're right about it catching on in business, but I'm not sure that the interface looks ideal for spreadsheets and shit.
It's not a touchscreen laptop, it's a tablet.
Did you not see the picture where it is a tablet?
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I can see that it's different, I said it's not different enough.
But y'know, Microsoft are pretty good at dislodging entrenched market leaders. Now where's my Zune.....
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(Something about people at work wanting them without wanting to invest in the SOE environment first and then whining how it doesn't do what they want)
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i can see the use in one of these.
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I shall wear my lol smirk just for the early adopters, apparently it froze during the demo. I'm not interested in the arm one, the x86 one might be good for some highly mobile business clients. People that want the wanky shit for home are losers. As for competing with apple I expect the price will determine that rather than the merits of one or the other. As apple seem to made a vast fortune from relatively small sales I expect theres some room to undercut.
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M$ need a badass app store and then it will sell.
Where is the 3g/4g?
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Quite like the look of it. Seems to be more of a netbook and I would like it better than an Ipad for work use, ditch the laptop and use it for reading manuals out of the office or emails away from base.
Happy to pay a little more for it if it has the power of a low end laptop.
What will break it is the apps. unless they can tap in to the Android app market (which a while ago was pretty weak for tablet apps anyway) or have and Ipad emulator.
MS may have to cut the price and try and get a lot out into the market.
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Microsoft has sucked since Vista was released, my guess is that it will become the Zune of tablets, too little too late.
I'll stick with my $400 netbook that does everything I need it to do (Facebook and porn)
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Microsoft has sucked since Vista was released
erm what, win7 is awesome.
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erm what, win7 is awesome.
Oh right. Everything besides that....
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7ZWDlk-CZk0/TomyfyJJ7wI/AAAAAAAAB5M/DlB3C-e0Hrk/s1600/Homer-doh.jpg)
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Oh right. Everything besides that....
Current generation Windows Phone is pretty damn sweet. Current generation server products are pretty damn sweet.
I think the only real fail since vista is Windows 8 for Desktop (It'll still be sweet for tablet/phone)
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What will break it is the apps. unless they can tap in to the Android app market (which a while ago was pretty weak for tablet apps anyway) or have and Ipad emulator.
MS may have to cut the price and try and get a lot out into the market.
I guess one of the reasons MS pushed the beta version of Win8 out so early is to get people intrested in developing apps for it. There will be plenty of apps by the time Windows RT is release, although no where near the same number as whats available for iPad.
Windows RT can't support any kind of emulation software, however from my experience it will be quite easy for andriod developers to code thier apps for Windows RT.
Windows 8 Pro will run anything Windows 7 can.
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Oh right. Everything besides that....
([url]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7ZWDlk-CZk0/TomyfyJJ7wI/AAAAAAAAB5M/DlB3C-e0Hrk/s1600/Homer-doh.jpg[/url])
Guess you haven't used Win2k8R2 to do anything...
This tablet will appeal to a LOT of businesses as they are probably already considering using tablets, and now they don't need to change their application base from windows architecture. It's a no brainer really.
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Me and my company already have people that have asked for exactly this type of functionality.
Really hope this works as well as it should
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Oh look, an Asus transformer pad.
Only with windows.
And for some reason people think it's revolutionary?
The only revolutionary thing is that it runs windows.
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Either I missed it, or it has no camera? Tablets are pro for skype/video calling, why does it not have one?
Also, it needs a microsoft version of the ipads retina display, that shit it sexy.
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http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en/us/about.aspx
Surface has not just one, but two cameras. Use the front LifeCam to chat with the people that you care about. The rear-facing LifeCam is angled to 22 degrees so you can flip out the Kickstand and record meetings and events hands-free. Stereo speakers and dual microphones tuned for Skype help you sound like you are right next door.
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(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4537543_460s_v2.jpg)
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Just soooo sexy I dont think ill be needing to look any further for fap material tonight :)
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Oh look, an Asus transformer pad.
Only with windows.
And for some reason people think it's revolutionary?
The only revolutionary thing is that it runs windows.
Yes, running a full version of windows is what makes it revolutionary.
There hasn't yet been a tablet which runs a full windows OS that has been designed for touch.
There has been many windows tablets before, but they've never done too well because the OS was always designed for mouse and keyboard first.
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Oops.
http://www.wimp.com/newtablet/
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it happens, even ios freezes... once for me, i think it was last year in may...
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Imagine the fappery if an iTampon ran OSsomefuckingbigcatnamewankery
IMAGINE!
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I've seen windows 'designed for touch' before it was shit and nobody used it. like the tablet PC 'support' or the all in one touchscreens. MS historically made crap OS's for touch. Crashing during demonstration doesn't fill me with confidence this will be any different.
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back then it was only a gimmick and people wanted to be wanky in meetings with their windows xp tablet that was completely shit. It was still WinXP pretending to be a tablet, they were slow and shit.
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Oops.
[url]http://www.wimp.com/newtablet/[/url]
LoL, Windows 98 all over again?
Imagine the fappery if an iTampon ran OSsomefuckingbigcatnamewankery
IMAGINE!
iOSX?
From what I hear every new cat seems to bring the two closer towards a singularity.
... Sounds familiar...
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I remember this article being on one of the top fails of 2012
http://www.zagg.com/community/blog/oprah-uses-her-ipad-to-tell-us-how-much-she-loves-the-surface/
Oprah recently revealed that Microsoft’s Surface tablet is one of her “Favorite Things” of 2012. Then, last night, she tweeted “Gotta say love that SURFACE! Have bought 12 already for Christmas gifts.” Interesting to note that the tweet was sent from an iPad. Below is a screenshot of the tweet from my Tweetbot iPhone app, which pulls in the source for each tweet.
(http://cdn.thenextweb.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2012/11/photo-520x395.png)
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Paid product endorsement maybe?
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Took you two days to figure that out?
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potatoes
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mash em, boil em, stick em in a stew
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Oprah is so rich, buying 12 is nothing, she could buy Surfaces to use as toilet paper.
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Don't be silly, the surface is smooth it will just smear, iPad's on the other hand........
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Don't be silly, the surface is smooth it will just smear, iPad's on the other hand........
Swipe to unlock?
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Back to topic, has anyone used one of these yet? Opinions plz.
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I want one and I used one at PBTech for all of 10 seconds; but that isnt really long enough to form an opinion.
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Do BPTech sell em in NZ?
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http://pbtech.co.nz/index.php?z=p&p=TABMST1010I&name=Microsoft-Surface-32GB-Windows-8-RT-Tablet-with-Bl
Seems so. But only the "RT" 32gb for $1069.50
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I want the RT version. But not for that price.
It'll be cheaper to get it shipped from the US.
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Yeah, when I saw they sold them I was curious to have a look, but the markup is horrible.
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I'll get one soon enough so I can have a play with it but i haven't the time atm. From what I hear it'll have to be jailbroken to run un-signed code, not sure if that's a surface thing or a Win8 tablet thing. It's trivial to JB them though and MS said they aren't going to patch and that the JBer did a good job and that they don't consider it an exploit but rather a "feature".
Anyone got one/jb'd it yet?
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You know for years now i've read your name as dirtyrape and have only just noticed it's ape
ohgodwhathaveIdone
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I've played with Microsoft's Table Surface at their Redmond HQs if that's any help.
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I've played with Microsoft's Table Surface at their Redmond HQs if that's any help.
How did you find it?
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You know for years now i've read your name as dirtyrape and have only just noticed it's ape
ohgodwhathaveIdone
lol - i'm sure Sigmund Freud would say something about that but don't feel bad I get that all the time. You'd think my avatard would be something entirely inappropriate if that actually were my alias...
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lol - i'm sure Sigmund Freud would say something about that but don't feel bad I get that all the time. You'd think my avatard would be something entirely inappropriate if that actually were my alias...
He's not the only one who thought there was an Extra R in your name.
the avatar did make more sense when I realised the correct spelling.
But that primate in your picture - he has got his rape face on....
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How did you find it?
By using a map.
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lol - i'm sure Sigmund Freud would say something about that but don't feel bad I get that all the time. You'd think my avatard would be something entirely inappropriate if that actually were my alias...
Or would your avatar be even more appropriate. Pretty sure that if an ape wanted to rip you a new one you wouldn't have a choice :P
He's not the only one who thought there was an Extra R in your name.
the avatar did make more sense when I realised the correct spelling.
But that primate in your picture - he has got his rape face on....
No need to go ape over it... HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Codex again.
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to The Demon Lord again.
That's awkward
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I've played with Microsoft's Table Surface at their Redmond HQs if that's any help.
What I always think this thread is about.
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to The Demon Lord again.
That's awkward
For a moment there I read 'Rapeutation'.
That's awkward
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But that primate in your picture - he has got his rape face on....
Yep looks like "you gonna get raped" monkey edition.
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^So just like the normal edition of spacemonkey?
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Why do you think he is a SpaceMonkey?
No one can hear you scream in space...
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Microsoft: Make outrageous claims
Release Kinect
Profit
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/99107-Microsoft-Believes-Peripherals-Are-Old-News
Microsoft Believes Peripherals Are Old News
Russ Pitts | 13 March 2010 3:16 pm
Citing the videogame industry's birth in commercial arcades, Microsoft's Eric Havir suggests Surface may be just getting started taking over the game industry. Already installed in a number of venues around the world, including the Palms casino in Las Vegas, Surface allows users to play by touch, using off-the-shelf processor and infrared camera technology. In addition to casinos, the Surface is landing in educational institutions and in hospitals, helping victims of head trauma and other injuries regain motor control through gaming.
According to Microsoft's Surface Game team lead, Gretchen Richter de Medeiros, gaming accessories and controllers are the biggest "barrier to entry" for a large potential gaming audience.
The 'barrier to entry' is the fact you are a huge, multi-million dollar heartless machine
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No one can hear you scream in space...
Noone can hear you say no?
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The 'barrier to entry' is the fact you are a huge, multi-million dollar heartless machine
Huh what does that sentence even mean?
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I didn't understand it either.
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The barrier to entry is that people can hear your screams...
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I didn't understand it eaither.
I think I see what you did there?
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(http://iforce.co.nz/i/b3wfm41j.yj2.jpg)
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AWWW YISSSS
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I've just played with Microsoft's Table Surface at the Microsoft Store.
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Look at that Windows piece of shit. What sort of hipster would get that. Clearly trying to look cool in front of his friends. Ohh look at me, I have one of those things thats product placement in all the cool tv shows like CSI.
Pussies.
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Look at that Windows piece of shit. What sort of hipster would get that. Clearly trying to look cool in front of his friends. Ohh look at me, I have one of those things thats product placement in all the cool tv shows like CSI.
Pussies.
Average troll 3/10
- too blatant
- obvious butthurt
- abuse at the end shows weakness
Consider revising
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Waaaaay too heavily laced with fanboi irony.
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Well it kills the iPad.
Anyway, not mine, but we do sell them now and was having a play with it today.
Build quality - A+
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what is a surface???
is it a cheap laptop with shitty rez, or expensive tablet with shitty rez and no dlna?
I thought the Galaxy note or whatever thier tablet is would be better value? (tablet not cell).
The only thing I see surface having over ipad is a USB port.
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I get the hype behind the S4, google nexus and those things. They are market leading pieces of hardware. Top of the line specs etc.
I just see the surface as this too late missed the boat OP piece of hardware. Specs wise next to a ipad and galaxy tab etc I just don't see the excitement???
What's so amazing about it?
*** Opps was meant to edit above post, my bad!
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I get the hype behind the S4, google nexus and those things. They are market leading pieces of hardware. Top of the line specs etc.
I just see the surface as this too late missed the boat OP piece of hardware. Specs wise next to a ipad and galaxy tab etc I just don't see the excitement???
What's so amazing about it?
*** Opps was meant to edit above post, my bad!
Surface runs Windows RT. Which supports new windows 8 apps (metro ones). So in theory you can run your same app set on the desktop and tablet. Someone has even cracked the thing, so it can run full blown desktop apps (RT is supposed to be a close port of windows 8, but ms stopped pre win8 desktop programs working).
EDIT: Seems i got that wrong. Surface pro is available with windows 8, so supports third party stuff off the bat.
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what is a surface?
Asus transformer, only 2 years late & runs windows rather than android.
aka, another failed MS attempt to crack mobile market.
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No point arguing about which tablet is best, they are all shit.
They are just crippled laptops for technological retards and people who get distracted by shiney things.
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I have a Surface Pro on its way in the mail, will let you know how it goes.
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Ignorance all around.
The Surface RT is is average.
But the Pro would be awesome. Ever used the RT? Like in practice? With the keyboard, kickstand and touchscreen wrapped in some of the highest build quailty?
Makes my laptop feel like a tonka toy.
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Yet my laptops Processor,Ram,Video card hard-dive space and screen makes any tablet a pile of shit in comparison, and the Surface Pro is even at the same price point as decent laptops.
You are giving up a bunch of shit for a touch screen and look at my cool toy factor.
If you really need that touch screen I guess its a good options but I bet you don't.
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Use a Pro for a week.
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Hah that's what apple fanbois say about iphones and shit.
"oh you just don't get it ignore all the facts and stuff you just have to feel it you know, it's just so polished and slick and the you need to feel the build quality... and it just works!"
Without using those sort of arguments tell me what benefit I can get from a Pro compared to my i7 8 gig ram 1tb HD 15.6 inch 1080p screen under AUD $1000 laptop?
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Hah that's what apple fanbois say about iphones and shit.
"oh you just don't get it ignore all the facts and stuff you just have to feel it you know, it's just so polished and slick and the you need to feel the build quality... and it just works!"
Without using those sort of arguments tell me what benefit I can get from a Pro compared to my i7 8 gig ram 1tb HD 15.6 inch 1080p screen under AUD $1000 laptop?
Is it an iPhone? If its not an iPhone, then I dont need it.
It has 3G and the WiFi's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg
I need an iPhone 4
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I dont really need a full laptop, i am already running Win8 on my desktop, and my phone is a Lumia 920. So the Surface Pro seems like a pretty natural choice to me.
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Yet my laptops...
A laptop is not a tablet.
Why is this even a discussion?
A tablet fits a different requirement to a laptop. There are many situations where a laptop would simply be to bulky to operate.
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Yeah but when your taking photos up womens skirts its far better to use a phone than a tablet.
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Yeah but when your taking photos up womens skirts its far better to use a phone than a tablet.
Ahh yes, but when viewing said photos, it's far better to use a tablet :P
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Yeah but when your taking photos up womens skirts its far better to use a phone than a tablet.
A shoe camera is the best tool for that job.
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Cost on the surface pro??
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Cost on the surface pro??
Dignity
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This thread needs more dick stroking
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, there is also a slightly harder, thicker, blacker keyboard cover.
How come no one made a joke about this.
I'm disappointed.
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Why is this even a discussion?
Because the discussion about which tablet is best is irrelevent when they are all shit and pointless.
It's also fun to shit on brand-name fanbois
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Hah that's what apple fanbois say [...] and it just works!"
Had a guy ask me today if there was an app for email.
Apparently it doesn't "just work".
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Because the discussion about which tablet is best is irrelevent when they are all shit and pointless.
It's also fun to shit on brand-name fanbois
They seem pretty handy for use on the move, where it becomes a bit impractical to have stable place to setup.
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That's what smartphones are for imo, if you are trying to be seriously productive on the move you are doing it wrong.
The only thing you can't really get done on a smartphone well that you can on a tablet is watching movies and looking at pictures.
If you are going on a plane or a long car/train journey then sure its nice but given how often most people do that is it really worth $500-1000 to you?
I just don't see how a tablet is that much different to a small laptop as far as mobility is concerned, I can't fit either into my pocket so I wouldn't want to lug them around day to day.
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When I settle in for a titanic shit, I have to spread my legs and plant myself firmly to the bowl and adhere myself to a position which I wont easily move from.
Using a laptop in this scenario is impossible because I have to have my legs closed in order for it to rest upon my legs. Closing my legs seriously diminishes my shit busting power.
I can accomplish powerful turd hammers with what I call a 'power-stance' when at the porcelain throne, and I can get this done by being able to hold a tablet in one hand, mid air because everyone fucking loves surfing and shitting.
And if you don't, you're a god damn terrorist and you deserve to die.
Tablet - 1, laptop - 0.
BRB, going out to by a Surface Pro.
P.S, Microsoft, contact me. You're marketing this thing all wrong.
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Retardobot knows the target market.
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So Retardobot is saying the marketing for the Surface Pro should be to people with serious shit to do.
Just saying, but i think this is who they are already marketing it to.
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What we need is advertisements with hot women taking a shit.
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The RT at Harvey Normans/JB is about $120 more then the pricing in the US.
Might be worth looking into getting it shipped over.
I'm considering getting the RT version.
For people who have/are considering the pro version, what x86 apps would you be running?
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Cost on the surface pro??
Looking at US$1000
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so $1800-5000 here?
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so $1800-5000 here?
Did the exchange rate just go crazy?
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That's what smartphones are for imo, if you are trying to be seriously productive on the move you are doing it wrong.
The only thing you can't really get done on a smartphone well that you can on a tablet is watching movies and looking at pictures.
If you are going on a plane or a long car/train journey then sure its nice but given how often most people do that is it really worth $500-1000 to you?
I just don't see how a tablet is that much different to a small laptop as far as mobility is concerned, I can't fit either into my pocket so I wouldn't want to lug them around day to day.
I meant the surface in particular with its support for x86 in work environments, so you can run specialist apps. I think it would be pretty useful for engineers/electricians who often have to wire up directly to devices to set them up, and they are usually in locations that don't really do too well with a laptop. That being said the price point is fairly high for this added convenience.
In regards to this whole using a tablet to watch movies/pictures/web. Who the hell would pay $500-1000 for that? I got my tablet for 190, and that was dualcore 720p IPS screen. And if you were someone who didn't care that much about res/cpu speed, you could easily pick one up for closer to $100.
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I meant the surface in particular with its support for x86 in work environments, so you can run specialist apps. I think it would be pretty useful for engineers/electricians who often have to wire up directly to devices to set them up, and they are usually in locations that don't really do too well with a laptop. That being said the price point is fairly high for this added convenience.
Is it? $1200 for a laptop would get similar specs as the surface pro.
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Is it? $1200 for a laptop would get similar specs as the surface pro.
I guess you are right. I am a bit out of touch with laptop prices. Seems like only the sub$1000 market has really hit great value for money.
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one random thing I want to try is to see how well it works with a PC xbox controller playing some (lightweight) steam games. It could come in handy for some casual gaming when on holiday
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The iPad is nice as a general purpose replacement for consuming media, small documents, emails, Skype, managing servers, browsing the interwebs etc because it is so portable and the battery life is insanely long. I personally load the tablet up with movies, music and buy a small data pack when going down to the bach for the summer. With a laptop you have to either sit, stand or half lie down half sit but with a tablet you can be in pretty much any position you like.
I have no real reason to keep the netbook at the moment as the raspberry Pi has been a very good replacement for coding. If anything intensive needs to be done I can use my gaming desktop. My mates have been sinking between $1000-3500 on notebooks when I got the iPad 2 64GB + 3G for $1000 on the Playtech Boxing Day sale. Tell me which is more cost effective? Bear in mind that they could get a surface pro($1200) if they wanted Windows or they could get a iPad mini($479) if they wanted to do simpler stuff.
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IPAD? FANBOI RETARD MENTALLY RETARDED LOSER WHO DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO WORK TECHNOLOGY. GO SUCK OFF STEVE JOBS CORPSE. CLEARLY YOU WOULD WANT TO DO THAT TOO. DICKHEAD. GO COMMIT SUICIDE OR SOMETHING, YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT IPAD USER.
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^astronomical butthurt.
$100.
I call bullshit.
My mates have been sinking between $1000-3500 on notebooks when I got the iPad 2 64GB + 3G for $1000 on the Playtech Boxing Day sale. Tell me which is more cost effective?
"My friends got proper computers for $1000"
"I got an ipad for $1000" ... "ON SALE".
umm...
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I call bullshit.
http://www.dhgate.com/ultrathin-7-cutepad-capacitive-q88-android/p-ff8080813b5faf47013b64a1c77c6d26.html#s1-20-null
Not a bad device. Not dualcore, nor 3g, nor HD screen. But give that to most people who just want something basic (browse web, watch movies, read pdf) and it will do the job. Really though you want to be looking at the $160ish mark, to get the dual core 1gb ram HD screen.
Also nice job cutting out the words closer to $100 (as in a about $100-120).
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"My friends got proper computers for $1000"
"I got an ipad for $1000" ... "ON SALE".
The majority of people buying notebooks are paying $1500, an android tablet or the cheaper iPads can be a third of that. I got the most expensive model(because I need the 3G and 64GB) which was at the time $1200 ish so for $1000 it was a steal. Most people would only require a 16GB wifi only tablet, they only need it to browse and type occasionally.
I am not a fanboi, have an android phone and had an android tablet. I find the play store apps aren't as refined but it is open, iOS would be useless to me without a jailbreak and the devices have more support from devs.
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If you're going to piss around jailbreaking your ipad or iphone just to get the features available on both other platforms then you may as well get the other platforms.
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But by switching to other platforms you lose any advantages iOS has, through jail breaking I can have all the benefits of the platforms. Until Android tablet apps become significantly better and it stops being so fragmented it would take days for me to get it exactly how I want it(been three weeks since I got my android phone and I still don't like the configuration). Jail breaking and installing all the tweaks I want can seriously take 10 minutes or less.
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The last experience I had on an Android tablet was utter shit (in terms of apps). Asus Transformer.
Only a select few were actually made for a 10" form factor and ones that weren't just stretched and looked hideous.
However, It's been a while and I'd hope devs have made their apps workable for the small and bigger screens.
P.S, my Nexus 4 arrives in a few days - YIFF IN HELL FURFAG APPLE COCKSUCKERS.
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The majority of people buying notebooks are paying $1500
Yeah but I think you missed the part where they got proper computers.
But by switching to other platforms you lose any advantages iOS has
iOS has advantages?
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The only app i've found on 4.2.2 that didn't like being on a tab was swiftkey normal, which makes sense since they have a tab version lol
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iOS has advantages?
Buy Apple like the Rich and Famous
Fits like glove in hand or anus
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Yeah but I think you missed the part where they got proper computers.
iOS has advantages?
Yeah but you missed the part where they don't need proper computers.
Yes huge support for each device from Apple and devs, tablet apps don't look like shit and for those that are hopeless ease of use. The support from developers(official apps and JB) is a major selling point for me and the reason why I switched from an android tablet. I'm considering switching to a surface pro if it doesn't fail like the RT.
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I'm considering switching to a surface pro if it doesn't fail like the RT.
What the fuck does that even mean?
Popularity contest?
Other people make your decisions for you?
You buy stuff based on sales figures?
You buy stuff based on stock?
What?
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He's an ipad user, clearly has Down Syndrome.
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Clearly.
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Yeah but you missed the part where they don't need proper computers.
Err but you can buy a 'proper' laptop for under 1k and this thing is 1.2k so that doesn't really make sense?
Also 'proper' computers have a lot of support from developers, you know like the majority of software that has been created over the last 2 decades.
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And the opportunity to do non derp stuff on them, even if you only need to derp atm.
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I know, the cost does put me off it. It's the support from developers I want not wether it is popular or not, it just happens to be that developers like money and so will develop for the more popular platform. I do not buy products for status otherwise I wouldn't be looking at headphones that are not beats by dr dre. For the last time I do not want or need a 'proper' mobile computer, tablets have the benefit of lasting entire days without charging, are light, able to complete the day to day tasks, are more comfortable to use in any position and I have my desktop which is my 'proper' computer.
The surface pro does MASSIVE support in terms of apps it runs but wether or not Microsoft cans it or not depends on wether it sells more than the Kin. I will probably wait for it to come down to $750ish.
Continue trying to troll berg, takes a lot more than that to annoy me.
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What the hell is this monstrosity
http://www.cnet.com/news/meet-surface-hub-microsofts-take-on-videoconferencing/ (http://www.cnet.com/news/meet-surface-hub-microsofts-take-on-videoconferencing/)
The device is called the Surface Hub and it's essentially a gigantic tablet running Windows 10. In fact, it's an 84-inch "ultrahigh-definition" touchscreen display. But it's more than that: packed on top, bottom and to the side of the screen, as well as inside the device itself, are several of Microsoft's Kinect motion sensors.
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Phone.
Phablet.
Tablet.
Tvablet.
TV.
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beep boop
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Is it a bird? Is it a plane? NO! It is Microsoft's HoloLens!
http://mashable.com/2015/01/22/hololens-hands-on-experience/ (http://mashable.com/2015/01/22/hololens-hands-on-experience/)
Minutes later I was standing on the surface of Mars. The car-sized Curiosity Rover was just feet away from me, real enough to touch. All around me were spectacular Martian rock formations. I squatted down to take a closer look at a collection near my feet. All that was missing was the ability to pick up one of these stones and toss is over the ever-watchful Curiosity’s head.
Earlier, a pair of Microsoft representatives had gingerly placed the HoloLens dev gear on my head, reminding me not to touch any of the exposed technology on the front of it. Before my eyes a thin blue line outlined a rectangle. In its center was a Windows logo. The technician worked with me to position the headgear until I could see the whole rectangle — which would allow for an optimal experience.
Before this, they had measured the distance between my pupils with a special device straight out of an optometrist's office (future HoloLens will do this measurement on their own). They used this measurement to preconfigure the HoloLens and then asked me to push my glasses up against the bridge of my nose so they wouldn’t be in the way.
Now, the technician was tightening the HoloLens on my head. The headgear made a clicking sound that I initially mistook for my skull cracking The headgear made a clicking sound that I initially mistook for my skull cracking — it was very tight. But I could see the whole square and was ready for my Mars experience.
The pressure on my head soon gave way to sheer wonder. Microsoft worked closely with NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) to develop the OnSite Curiosity experience software. The goal, they told me, is to revolutionize how JPL scientists drive this mission and how they walk about and explore the Martian surface.
Now feel the complete visual and emotional experience of a BSOD in a virtual environment
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That looks awesome, proper augmented reality. Far better then that silly thing that google company came up with.
I saw more actually useful applications for HoloLens in that short video then I have seen for Google glass since it was released.
Being able to represent a 3d model while working on it would be great. Google Glass is monoscopic so it is of no use there.
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What the hell is this monstrosity
[url]http://www.cnet.com/news/meet-surface-hub-microsofts-take-on-videoconferencing/[/url] ([url]http://www.cnet.com/news/meet-surface-hub-microsofts-take-on-videoconferencing/[/url])
The device is called the Surface Hub and it's essentially a gigantic tablet running Windows 10. In fact, it's an 84-inch "ultrahigh-definition" touchscreen display. But it's more than that: packed on top, bottom and to the side of the screen, as well as inside the device itself, are several of Microsoft's Kinect motion sensors.
Already got onto the technology manager at work, who's already asked Microsoft for a demo model as soon as they become available in NZ :-P
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http://www.theinsiderreview.com/technology/microsoft-brings-cortana-xbox-to-windows-ten-download-the-no-cost-technical-preview-upgrade-now-h5621.html (http://www.theinsiderreview.com/technology/microsoft-brings-cortana-xbox-to-windows-ten-download-the-no-cost-technical-preview-upgrade-now-h5621.html)
Microsoft has stated that it will give a cost-free upgrade to Windows ten for current customers of Windows 7, Windows eight and Windows 8.1.
Microsoft Brings Cortana, Xbox To Windows ten
Download The No cost Technical Preview Upgrade Now
The Microsoft Corporation released a absolutely free download for the newest version of Windows ten to members of its Insider Program on Friday. Microsoft had announced the most current build (9926) and attributes of Windows ten at an occasion on Wednesday
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What the hell is this monstrosity
[url]http://www.cnet.com/news/meet-surface-hub-microsofts-take-on-videoconferencing/[/url] ([url]http://www.cnet.com/news/meet-surface-hub-microsofts-take-on-videoconferencing/[/url])
The device is called the Surface Hub and it's essentially a gigantic tablet running Windows 10. In fact, it's an 84-inch "ultrahigh-definition" touchscreen display. But it's more than that: packed on top, bottom and to the side of the screen, as well as inside the device itself, are several of Microsoft's Kinect motion sensors.
Already got onto the technology manager at work, who's already asked Microsoft for a demo model as soon as they become available in NZ :-P
we just got the developer API's and our MVP just confirmed us 5 testing units.... got to love health industry and the power it has to pull in new devices..
LIAS.. suck my hairy HOLOlense wearing balls.
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Now if hololense limited edition comes in a halo helmet and works with cortana in windows 10 ...
I am never leaving home gain.
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Now if hololense limited edition comes in a halo helmet and works with cortana in windows 10 ...
I am never leaving home gain.
This.