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General => Technology & Hardware => Topic started by: swindle on May 27, 2013, 03:49:24 pm

Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: swindle on May 27, 2013, 03:49:24 pm
Or maybe I'm doing it wrong?

In any case, this should be so much easier then it is.

I have a computer, I want to make a drive in the computer visible to everyone on the network with the ability to both read and write to said drive.

How do I do that?

I have shared the drive and added read/write permissions via advanced sharing, but I still cannot access the folder. I can see it, I can read or write to it though.

What. The. Fuck.

OS X has got you by the balls with this Windows, it really really does.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: PrinceTuiTeka on May 27, 2013, 03:52:01 pm
Careful swindle, you are sounding more and more like an iFanboi.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: swindle on May 27, 2013, 03:56:22 pm
So be it.

I'm becoming a fanboy thick and fast here.

Any idea how easy it is to share with a OS X? So very very easy. So very very quick.

I'm starting to loath windows more and more.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Retardobot on May 27, 2013, 04:01:28 pm
Windows 7 sharing took a fuck-turn for the worse.

You have to be in the same homegroup (work, public or home).

It's a hell of a stupid process.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: winter on May 27, 2013, 04:12:11 pm
Yep, agreed - it's stupidly hard to get it working. I find myself adding a fake user account and then giving the person/other computer that username/password and then they're able to access the drive.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on May 27, 2013, 04:25:53 pm
Quote from: Retardobot;1525928
Windows 7 sharing took a fuck-turn for the worse.

You have to be in the same homegroup (work, public or home).

It's a hell of a stupid process.

I've found the homegroup feature makes it a lot easier.

Before that, sharing was a pain.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Hmmmgood on May 27, 2013, 04:28:03 pm
Have a look at the securities tab as well as sharing.If it does not have Everyone then add it and the permissions.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: AvatarFACE on May 27, 2013, 04:30:18 pm
my current household setup has a shared drive and a couple of shared folders, both running windows, both in the homegroup and the other computers username has to be on an approved list or something maybe? (I set this up ages ago and I've changed the router and my computer a couple times around and it still works)

I'm a networking noob and I found it pretty easy, I think windows has a setup guide as I'm pretty sure I just followed some instructions.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Pyromanik on May 27, 2013, 05:41:12 pm
\\ComputerName\C$

Access ALL the things!
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: swindle on May 27, 2013, 06:12:24 pm
OMG

I'm going to cry.

Simple question - If there some software I can use to share drives so I can both read and write from said drives?

Fuck you home group and fuck you microsoft. Your shit sucks.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Growler on May 27, 2013, 06:19:46 pm
haha. i hear ya swindle.

I find it easier on my mac to connect to the pc via ip

cmd+k

smb://192.168.1.1/ or whatever.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Growler on May 27, 2013, 06:21:01 pm
on your pc, right click on the drive and share it there bla bla bla etc, get really  frustrated at how annoying windows is, contemplate putting OSX on your pc via hackintosh......
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Growler on May 27, 2013, 06:21:38 pm
http://www.hackintosh.com/

dooooit!

then al you need is to boot into winblows for gaming ;)
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Growler on May 27, 2013, 06:21:54 pm
M M M M M M MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULTIPOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST!
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: swindle on May 27, 2013, 06:22:36 pm
I just can not be fucked with windows anymore. I really can't.

A month with OS X and windows feels like such a piece of shit, both navigating and stability.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Growler on May 27, 2013, 06:23:56 pm
Now you can truly see why I use OSX at work for photo work and printing.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Craigor on May 27, 2013, 06:54:27 pm
I think MS has lost the plot tbh..

Make a user account on the windows computer, and when you share the folder, under the permissions, add that user with read/write permissions
From the other computer, connect to the drive, and authenticate with \ in the username, and the password you made .. should work

(e.g. if your windows PC was called swindle-PC and the user you created was called Frank, you would authenticate with "Swindle-PC\Frank" as the username)

And seriously, the metro touchscreen interface on Server2012.. who's moronic idea was that.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Slingshot on May 27, 2013, 07:01:51 pm
Quote from: Craigorsarus;1525955
I think MS has lost the plot tbh..

Make a user account on the windows computer, and when you share the folder, under the permissions, add that user with read/write permissions
From the other computer, connect to the drive, and authenticate with \ in the username, and the password you made .. should work

(e.g. if your windows PC was called swindle-PC and the user you created was called Frank, you would authenticate with "Swindle-PC\Frank" as the username)

And seriously, the metro touchscreen interface on Server2012.. who's moronic idea was that.

Why does it matter what it looks like? It is the same thing as a start menu. The only thing you use it for is to search for stuff.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Slingshot on May 27, 2013, 07:10:39 pm
And sharing is easy with windows 8.

Share the folder.

Make sure you have File and Print sharing allowed in the firewall (an option to allow this is given when you connect to a network, you probably clicked no)

Network center -> advanced sharing -> all networks -> turn off password.

If you have any problems after that, you fucked up.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: The Demon Lord on May 27, 2013, 07:20:56 pm
Shares are easy in Windows - you just have to know how to do it....
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on May 27, 2013, 08:10:42 pm
Quote from: The Demon Lord;1525958
Shares are easy in Windows - you just have to know how to do it....

This.

I've had no problems.


I think swindle is just doing it wrong.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Emrico1 on May 27, 2013, 09:03:19 pm
I had the same issues. What's worse is that they advertised how easy it was to share files etc. Bullshit, it's confusing as fuck.
Honestly, Someone give me another operating system! Mac is overpriced and evil, Windows is shit, Linux sounds wonderful but can't run the anything...

Please google, mozilla or someone give me a new OS for Christmas...
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Growler on May 27, 2013, 09:21:12 pm
Run OSX on your PC :P
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on May 27, 2013, 09:24:41 pm
Run PC on your OSX!
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Pe_Pa_Possum on May 27, 2013, 10:29:00 pm
Quote from: Slingshot;1525957
Share the folder.

Make sure you have File and Print sharing allowed in the firewall (an option to allow this is given when you connect to a network, you probably clicked no)

Network center -> advanced sharing -> all networks -> turn off password.


^This

And share with everyone has always worked.

Like this

http://snag.gy/F5S7T.jpg

Edit: Also might pay to make sure File and Printer sharing is turned on in Advanced sharing settings
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: The Demon Lord on May 28, 2013, 12:24:25 am
Quote from: Emrico1;1525965
I had the same issues. What's worse is that they advertised how easy it was to share files etc. Bullshit, it's confusing as fuck.
Honestly, Someone give me another operating system! Mac is overpriced and evil, Windows is shit, Linux sounds wonderful but can't run the anything...

Please google, mozilla or someone give me a new OS for Christmas...

Linux is fun!

There is this really neat program you can run on a Linux box - just go to a command prompt and copy and paste the following:

su
rm -rf /

And then watch the magic that happens
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Pyromanik on May 28, 2013, 06:09:44 pm
Quote from: Emrico1;1525965
Linux sounds wonderful but can't run the anything...


only 90% of the internet.

One would say that it runs ALL the things.

itt:
Windows fanbois chime in with how easy it is to perform a complex unintuitive proceedure in order to share a whole drive.
MacOS fanbois get mad

EVERYONE ignores: \\\$\ DONE.


Sharing in windows has ALWAYS been a cunt. No ifs, buts, or coming back from that windows fanbois.
MacOS fanbois: "qq it's not mac" is not a valid excuse for ignorance. Complaining it's hard is one thing, complaining it's not something else is another.
Same deal goes for everyone bagging linux. It runs everything, espeically with wine if you're an Adobe gobbler. Not saying there won't be a few issues, but it's perfectly stable for any kind of dev, office work, or many games.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Hmmmgood on May 28, 2013, 06:41:50 pm
Quote from: Pyromanik;1526000
Sharing in windows has ALWAYS been a cunt.

Apart from Vista,sharing on windows is piss easy.Always has been.

And if ppl find it hard then maybe osx is for them cause lets face it,it really is the os for children.

Just make sure the right things are checked in advanced sharing settings in cp and then on the folder/drive sharing/security tab.

No need for extra accounts or homegroup.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Pyromanik on May 28, 2013, 06:54:37 pm
Somebody obviously never tried to lan on the 9x family.
or ever faced NTFS file permissions overriding sharing permissions.
or ever had a computer just tell you that another (that can connect to it) just doesn't even exist.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Emrico1 on May 28, 2013, 07:00:10 pm
Quote from: Pyromanik;1526000
It runs everything, espeically with wine if you're an Adobe gobbler. Not saying there won't be a few issues, but it's perfectly stable

Aparently only photoshop will work and all brush tools and clone stamp tools don't work.
Nope.jpg
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Pyromanik on May 28, 2013, 07:04:26 pm
Bummer. Used to.
Might still with crossover. *shrug*
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Hmmmgood on May 28, 2013, 07:13:14 pm
Quote from: Pyromanik;1526007
Somebody obviously never tried to lan on the 9x family.
or ever faced NTFS file permissions overriding sharing permissions.
or ever had a computer just tell you that another (that can connect to it) just doesn't even exist.

tbh iv never had any of those issues,but then iv really only used 3rd party apps for sharing with lots of ppl.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Emrico1 on May 28, 2013, 07:16:55 pm
Quote from: Pyromanik;1526011
Bummer. Used to.
Might still with crossover. *shrug*

I'll give it a go. I've been promising myself I would but Adobe has held me back.
I'll do a dual boot when my eventual time off comes around...

Just for you.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Pyromanik on May 28, 2013, 10:23:17 pm
People will sneer, but GIMP, Inkscape, Scribus (photoshop, illustrator, indesign).
Don't help shit when you've got to open someone elses work though.

I met someone in the weekend who scoffed at GIMP but ranked Inkscape far and above Illustrator. I thought that was pretty cool coming from a seasoned designer.

As for coding, that's well good and fine on linux.



Quote from: Hmmmgood;1526012
tbh iv never had any of those issues,but then iv really only used 3rd party apps for sharing with lots of ppl.

The ol' "works for me" eh.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: swindle on May 28, 2013, 11:46:54 pm
So I managed to share a folder. Works well enough now.

Remote desktop + twonky = easy for noobs like me running media players. Running remote desktop to the macbook of the media server is handy as shit. I gotta keep an eye on it, after all its held together with blutack.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: oefox on May 29, 2013, 09:31:16 am
I should have chimed in yesterday.

Leave the windows home group and use advanced folder sharing using usernames/passwords.
Share folder.
Add everyone to the security setting.

Done.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: 5loth on May 29, 2013, 11:31:14 am
Quote from: Pyromanik;1526000
EVERYONE ignores: \\\$\ DONE.

This is only of use if you are an administrator of the computer you are connecting to. If I'm connecting to my flatmate John's PC, unless I have administrator access to his PC, the $ share's aren't of any use.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Hmmmgood on May 29, 2013, 06:20:27 pm
Quote from: Pyromanik;1526024
The ol' "works for me" eh.

er not really,its not a mysterious dark art or rocket science or anything.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on May 30, 2013, 08:17:17 am
Quote from: Hmmmgood;1526052
er not really,its not a mysterious dark art or rocket science or anything.

You just have to make a sacrifice to the old gods by cutting your hand and citing a passage from the book of the dead every time you want share a folder.

I thought everyone knew this? It's clearly written on page 6 of the user manual.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Pyromanik on June 02, 2013, 01:24:15 pm
Quote from: 5loth;1526038
This is only of use if you are an administrator of the computer you are connecting to. If I'm connecting to my flatmate John's PC, unless I have administrator access to his PC, the $ share's aren't of any use.

yes, I was going to mention that, but in this case I have taken the assumption that swindle is the administrator of his own computer.
If I'm wrong I either did a shit job of reading the op or it wasn't mentioned.

There's always the default share of the user folder. That's aways exciting and damn near impossible to turn off intuitively.
Just put all your personal info in your home folder, everyone in the work group can write to it! yaaaaaay, so easy.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: swindle on June 02, 2013, 09:26:38 pm
Windows really needs a good sorting out.

If you are like me and use a smaller SSD to base windows 8 on, then this sharing and library and public can become a bit of a nightmare.

It is as Pyro describes it, un-intuitive.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Pyromanik on June 03, 2013, 09:44:23 am
but Swindle, it has a GUI... what could be more intuitive than that!?
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Xenolightning on June 03, 2013, 07:56:52 pm
Quote from: Pyromanik;1526268
but Swindle, it has a GUI... what could be more intuitive than that!?
CLI OFC
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Pyromanik on June 04, 2013, 05:53:14 pm
Don't be silly. CLI is full of dark magic wizardry and is for basement nerds only. GOSH. Only GUIs are easy to use. That's why windows is so much better than macosx, because macosx is just a frontend for the CLI. DUH.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Xenolightning on June 04, 2013, 07:56:28 pm
Shush Codex.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: swindle on June 04, 2013, 08:44:21 pm
I feel so stupid :(

But I really like OSX so far :)
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: deadmeatwalking on June 05, 2013, 12:32:51 am
Quote from: Pyromanik;1526363
Don't be silly. CLI is full of dark magic wizardry and is for basement nerds only. GOSH. Only GUIs are easy to use. That's why windows is so much better than macosx, because macosx is just a frontend for the CLI. DUH.


(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llypiaOuiB1qisaqio1_500.gif)<----- i have about that much clue about what you just said :P
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Post by: mattnz on June 05, 2013, 05:52:59 pm
Was just thinking that swindle hasn't jumped on a bandwagon lately :D:D:D:D
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Post by: Pyromanik on June 05, 2013, 06:14:25 pm
HTC One doesn't count?
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: mattnz on June 05, 2013, 11:42:47 pm
Yusssss, he's back on form :>
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: swindle on June 07, 2013, 12:24:28 am
(http://cache2.artprintimages.com/p/LRG/27/2700/9UQUD00Z/art-print/william-vandivert-view-of-a-farmer-planting-seeds-on-his-farm.jpg)
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: Codex on June 07, 2013, 01:12:49 pm
Quote from: swindle;1526259
windows 8
un-intuitive.


Yes
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: swindle on June 07, 2013, 02:40:15 pm
Quote from: Codex;1526579
Yes

To you and me, its not so bad.

To the regular joe they treat it like its some modern enigma code.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: O-L-W-A-G on June 08, 2013, 08:15:13 pm
Just buy/build a NAS then use it for storage of stuff you normally transfer over the network; saves space in PC chassis, always on, inter-platform and removes windows networking headaches.
Title: Why the FUCK is this still such a challenge in Windows.
Post by: swindle on June 09, 2013, 01:33:35 pm
Yeah I've built a NAS server now. Using Twonky. Good bit of software I might add.