The Road to World War 3

[BerG]

So all this bs in the US has got me interested in why the US is so fucked up.

Have been doing a lot of reading of not only conspiracy nutjob sites, but also very reputable sites and the results are fairy depressing.

It all comes down to the US Federal Reserve, a PRIVATE corporation that completely controls the US economy. Like most others, I thought the word 'Federal' meant the US Federal Reserve was a government department. Nope, private bankers control the supply of money to the US. The Federal Reserve was created in 1913.

On December 23, 1913, the Federal Reserve Act, also known as the Glass-Owen Bill, was passed. The Republican controlled Senate rammed the bill through when many members of the US Congress were home for the holiday. The President, Dr. Thomas Woodrow Wilson, signed it into law one hour after being passed by the Congress! Somebody very powerful really wanted this law passed. The Federal Reserve System is an independent central bank.

Anyway, this video is very good. Watchit.




In a nutshell, it goes like this:
1945 - Bretton Woods Agreement makes the US Dollar the world's reserve currency, provided the US promises to continue to back it by gold
1971 - Because of war spending and general corruption of politicians, the US refuses to continue the agreement and defaults, making the US Dollar backed by nothing, and stealing gold from other countries
1973-1975 - US enters into agreements with OPEC nations that they will ONLY sell their oil in US Dollars and will invest excess profits in US Treasuries. In exchange, the US military is pledged to defend OPEC oil fields. This creates the era of the PetroDollar, which means the US Dollar is effectively backed by oil (not as good as gold, but better than nothing). This might be why the dollar continues to hold up against other currencies in the face of massive printing.
Due to these agreements with OPEC, all oil importing countries MUST obtain US Dollars to buy oil. This creates an artificial demand for the US Dollar, making the US wealthy through force of military. It allows the US to win the arms race and Cold War. It creates artificial demand for US Treasuries, allowing the US government to borrow money and spend on wasteful projects without taxing the American people as much. It also requires the US to police the Middle East and install puppet dictators, something the people there hate and resent.
2000 - Iraq decides to stop selling oil in US Dollars and instead sell oil in Euros.
Same year, the Project for a New American Century writes it's infamous "Rebuilding America's Defenses" which discusses needing a "New Pearl Harbor."
Same year, George Bush Jr. "wins" presidency amid claims of fraud.
2001 - 9/11
2003 - After war drums beat and lies are told about WMD's, US invades Iraq and overthrows their government. One of the first acts is to go back to selling oil in US Dollars.
2007 - General Wesley Clark reveals that he was given a document back in 2003 showing how the US military was going to invade 7 countries in 5 years.
Mid-2000's - Libya organizes a group of nations to create a competing currency backed by gold.
2011 - US wages a war by proxy against Libya, killing the leader, and one of the first acts is to install a central bank.
In recent years, Iran has been working with Russia, China, and other countries to sell their oil in other currencies.
The US has been plotting (yes, a "conspiracy") to overthrow the government of Iran again (first time was in 1953). Iran's closest ally is Syria.
The US is trying to beat the war drums to invade Syria NOT because of chemical weapons, but to set up the attack on Iran. (The war drums against Iran have not worked, so far.)
If Iran can sell oil in other currencies, other countries will follow. This will be the destruction of the PetroDollar, which is to say that all that irresponsible borrowing and money printing in the US will finally crash the currency and the economy.
And if the US is able to kill off Iran, the next targets are Russia and China. In other words: World War 3.

[BerG]

It should be noted that in 1963 President Kennedy signed in legislation to restore currency printing to Congress, effectively putting the Federal Reserve out of business.

He was assassinated under suspicious circumstances 5 months later. The 10% of United States Notes that he had got into circulation, were quickly removed and replaced once again with Federal Reserve Notes.

Debt free United States Note:



Normal, Federal Reserve Note:

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

I see that weed you're smoking is doing it's job.

[Zarkov]

Too many nutjob sites, and not enough of the other kind.

[winter]

Please stop reading conspiracy theory websites

[Zarkov]

How does that thing not drop a wing at that angle of attack?

[Retardobot]

US fighter jets are powered by gipsy magic.

It's a new conspiracy I'm trying out. See if it takes wings.

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

US fighter jets are powered by gipsy magic.

It's a new conspiracy I'm trying out. See if it takes wings.

Gipsy blood is the new oil of the west.

[Retardobot]

At DARPA they have a gipsy chief blessing all the equipment.

It grants everything +500 in random magical properties because gipsy's are always drunk.

[Mayhem_Lee]

How does that thing not drop a wing at that angle of attack?

Russians.... to much vodka to think about it + thrust vectoring may be on that model

[The Demon Lord]

US fighter jets are powered by gipsy magic.

It's a new conspiracy I'm trying out. See if it takes wings.

Pretty sure that is a SU33 which would make it Russian.

(no US carrier aircraft have Canards and plus the Carrier deck configuration isn't right for a US carrier)

To answer your Question Z - Thrust Vectoring nozzles is how he was able to pull that move without stalling into the carrier deck

[winter]

Pretty sure that is a SU33 which would make it Russian.

(no US carrier aircraft have Canards and plus the Carrier deck configuration isn't right for a US carrier)

To answer your Question Z - Thrust Vectoring nozzles is how he was able to pull that move without stalling into the carrier deck

your mum.

[Retardobot]

Pretty sure that is a SU33 which would make it Russian.

Neat. You know war-stuff.

I don't care.

[winter]

With it being a Russian Naval SU-33, I'm surprised he even had a carrier to land on.. their Navy is notoriously bad. I was just waiting for them to try and start shit with the US 6th Fleet recently in the Medi.

[The Demon Lord]

Neat. You know war-stuff.

I don't care.

I like planes.

Planes are awesome

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

With it being a Russian Naval SU-33, I'm surprised he even had a carrier to land on.. their Navy is notoriously bad. I was just waiting for them to try and start shit with the US 6th Fleet recently in the Medi.

I didn't even know Russia have an ocean for their carriers to sit in.

[Mayhem_Lee]

Neat. You know war-stuff.

I don't care.

Posting in the road to world war 3 thread...........

[Zarkov]

A powerful onboard computer as well.

Most aircraft would have barrel rolled into the sea at that point.

[Retardobot]

Posting in the road to world war 3 thread...........

It's a thread about economic collapse.

Did you even read OP?

You don't even lift.

Don't address me.

[BerG]

Can we have some answers as to why you think the video is wrong.

All of these regimes have been toppled in the Middle East only after they switched from selling oil in USD, to another currency. Petrodollar warfare.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar_warfare

Most oil sales throughout the world are denominated in United States dollars (USD).^[1] According to proponents of the petrodollar warfare hypothesis, because most countries rely on oil imports, they are forced to maintain large stockpiles of dollars in order to continue imports. This creates a consistent demand for USDs and puts upward pressure on the USD's value, regardless of economic conditions in the United States. This in turn allegedly allows the US government to gain revenues through seignorage and by issuing bonds at lower interest rates than they otherwise would be able to. As a result the U.S. government can run higher budget deficits at a more sustainable level than can most other countries. A stronger USD also means that goods imported into the United States are relatively cheap, although any country benefitting from this position could also be seriously damaged if their currency were to appreciate significantly against other world currencies, particularly in exports which would become relatively more expensive for the rest of the world.
Another component of the hypothesis is that the price of oil is more stable in the U.S. than anywhere else since importers do not need to worry about exchange rate fluctuations. Since the U.S. imports a great deal of oil, its markets are heavily reliant on oil and its derivative products (jet fuel, diesel fuel, gasoline, etc.) for their energy needs. As the price of oil can be an important political factor, U.S. administrations are quite sensitive to the price of oil.
Political enemies of the United States therefore have some interest in seeing oil denominated in euros or other currencies

In 2000, Iraq converted all its oil transactions under the Oil for Food program to euros.^[4] When the U.S. invaded Iraq in 2003, it returned oil sales from the euro to the USD.^[5]

Then Libya-According to more than a few observers, Gadhafi’s


plan to quit selling Libyan oil in U.S. dollars — demanding payment instead in gold-backed “dinars” (a single African currency made from gold) — was the real cause of the invasion. The regime, sitting on massive amounts of gold, estimated at close to 150 tons, was also pushing other African and Middle Eastern governments to follow suit.

“Had Gadhafi sparked a gold-driven monetary revolution, he would have done well for his own people, and for the world at large,” she concluded. “A Gadhafi-driven gold revolution would have, however, imperiled the positions of central bankers and their political and media power-brokers.”

Adding credence to the theory about why Gadhafi had to be overthrown, as The New American reported in March, was the rebels’ odd decision to create a central bank to replace Gadhafi’s state-owned monetary authority. The decision was broadcast to the world in the early weeks of the conflict.

In a statement describing a March 19 meeting, the rebel council announced, among other things, the creation of a new oil company. And more importantly: “Designation of the Central Bank of Benghazi as a monetary authority competent in monetary policies in Libya and appointment of a Governor to the Central Bank of Libya, with a temporary headquarters in Benghazi.”

The creation of a new central bank, even more so than the new national oil regime, left analysts scratching their heads. “I have never before heard of a central bank being created in just a matter of weeks out of a popular uprising,” noted Robert Wenzel in an analysis for the Economic Policy Journal. “This suggests we have a bit more than a rag tag bunch of rebels running around and that there are some pretty sophisticated influences,” he added. Wenzel also noted that the uprising looked like a “major oil and money play, with the true disaffected rebels being used as puppets and cover” while the transfer of control over money and oil supplies takes place.

Other analysts, even in the mainstream press, were equally shocked. “Is this the first time a revolutionary group has created a central bank while it is still in the midst of fighting the entrenched political power?” wondered CNBC senior editor John Carney. “It certainly seems to indicate how extraordinarily powerful central bankers have become in our era.”

Similar scenarios involving the global monetary system — based on the U.S. dollar as a global reserve currency, backed by the fact that oil is traded in American money — have also been associated with other targets of the U.S. government. Some analysts even say a pattern is developing.

Iran, for example, is one of the few nations left in the world with a state-owned central bank. And Iraqi despot Saddam Hussein, once armed by the U.S. government to make war on Iran, was threatening to start selling oil in currencies other than the dollar just prior to the Bush administration’s “regime change” mission.

[Zarkov]

Stay on topic.

This threads about missed approaches.

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

Has someone replaced Berg?


His posts are not his usual character.



He hasn't mentioned Arnold Schwarzenegger once yet.

[Bounty Hunter]

Every time I hear one of these conspiracy theories all I can think is "That's actually a really good idea....now this is my idea....".

Seriously though whatever the nut jobs think the US is doing, the US needs to start doing because right now they're doing fuck all.

[swindle]

I feel like I'm walking in on me 5 years ago when I first started thinking about this shit.

You think the world isn't run by like 12 people?

I laugh at you and your ignorance of living in a Democratic world. This collapse was sorted in part by the Koch brothers and others with interests in buying up cheap assets.

I'd love to visit America. I bet its amazing. I'd hate to be an American. I bet its shit.

[BerG]

Its painfully obvious when you spend a few hours researching it.

As Henry Ford said, "It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."

Its obvious to everyone that the US is going down financially and will not be the world superpower for much longer. This is no secret. Is the US going to sit back while their money slowly becomes worth nothing and their economy goes way downhill, never to recover. Or are they are going to do something drastic in order to stay in control. I know what I'd do, if I was them.

The sad thing is, they can do it and still look like the good guys.

Will be interesting to see how they angle their next attempt to get public support for an attack on Syria/Iran. An attack on US soil? It could be that extreme.