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General => General Chat => Topic started by: Xt1ncT on March 06, 2008, 11:19:40 am
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Does anyone here play it?
I know it's sub based, but from the amount of people who do play it could be worth it.
If there are people that play it, what are the pros and what are the cons? I could be interested in having a go - there is a 14 day free trial at the moment as well.
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ping ? cost?
does ping matter?
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Your first cost after the 14 days is $19.99 US, then $14.99 US amonth.
So not too bad really - considering the game is free.
Not sure about pings, but will find out as I've signed up and will have a go tonight or tomorrow night.
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I've played it on and off for about 4 years now and overall its brilliant. The combat is on a massive scale with proper combined arms maneuvers involving hundreds of players, all coordinated by a dedicated group of players that make up the high command unit.
I've had some truly amazing experiences in the game and the changes/additions over the last year or so have vast improved the game further. Ping isn't a huge issue although it will rear its head from time to time with the odd instance of warping or rubber banding.
However, the learning curve is steep and the player population is relatively small. Finding action can often take a long (long) time although the interface has been improved to help players get into hot spots faster. The game enine is old and although its gradually being brought up to more modern specs, its not the greatest looking game. Its functional more than pretty but when you can engage a tank at a range of 6kms, prettiness takes a backseat to functionality very fast :D
The benefit of a small player base is that they are incredibly helpful and new players are generally well looked after. The best thing to do is not load the game and try to play it like a regular online FPS as that will result in frustration very quickly. Combat is a mix of urban and rural centred on townships or cities. In a rural setting, you'll almost never see what kills you as the average range of engagement is around 250-350m and a prone person is actually really really small at that distance. Vehicles are more obvious but of course deadly at far greater ranges. Urban combat is only different in the ranges, you'll still get plugged by something you never see more often than not.
Patience is the order of the day.
Its definitely worth go with the 14 day trial and as long as you approach it with the mindset of a complete noob (ie don't think you know how to use certain weapons based on other games) then you'll find the learning curve easier to overcome. Take some time to read the player guides on the website and don't be afraid to ask questions in the game.
Heres the best place to start:
http://wiki.wwiionline.com/index.php/Main_Page
If you want to try out vehicles, heres an excellent guide on Panzers which demonstrates the level of accuracy.
http://home.arcor.de/Jalik/pzguide/panzerguideeng.html
I'm not active at the moment (dead desktop) but I'm happy to answer any questions that don't require an in-game response :)
I can tell some pretty crazy stories of multi-crewed tanks and aircraft as well as some epic battles hehe.
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Thanks Foxy.
I've signed up for the trial and will have a go.
Would be interested in getttng a few people from NZ together and maybe form a squadron. Plus getting a few new players together at the same time could make the learning more fun as we'd be learning at the same time.
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There are/were a few kiwis in the game on the Allied side as the ANZAC squad, not sure how active they are in WW2O these days but you can find them here http://anzac.mdsnews.com/.
I never interacted with them other than to shoot them since I play Axis but all accounts point to them being a good bunch.
On a side note, CRS have recently landed a deal to publish the game in China which will hopefully mean more revenue for them to use improving the game in future.
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they want ur CC details just for the trial which is lame.
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me and bell use to play it quite a bit
konev probably still plays it (although he's a tanker)...ahh just asked him...no he doesnt...
loose unit would play from time to time.
flying in a group of 2 or 3 id funner, but i seem to get more kills when i solo...
i am also inactive atm
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they want ur CC details just for the trial which is lame.
Not really 'cos it's pretty simple to unsuscribe, and if you want to play the game you have to pay so it's no different from going into EB and paying for a game then taking it back within the prescribed timeframe.
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Downloading now.
Looking forward to giving this a go.
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Its a pity I haven't got a working desktop, I'd been keen as to jump in and show you around.
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Graphics are fail. I know they're "getting better" but even if the graphics were twice as good as last time I saw it, it would still be in the catagory of unbearable.
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Hey foxy,long time no see.
Iv been playing ww2O off and on for awhile now.Probably the best fun iv ever had in a game.Graphics are mud but you don't really notice after awhile.Havn't played in about a year so don't know how things have improved.Might have to resign up and see.
P.S where are all the old -101- hanging out these days foxman?
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Unless you have a fair bit of spare time, I'd avoid it. Did some inf movements attacking a town, took me ten minutes to run there....
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Hey foxy,long time no see.
Iv been playing ww2O off and on for awhile now.Probably the best fun iv ever had in a game.Graphics are mud but you don't really notice after awhile.Havn't played in about a year so don't know how things have improved.Might have to resign up and see.
P.S where are all the old -101- hanging out these days foxman?
Long time indeed! :)
Things have improved greatly in the last year and with luck they will continue to do so.
The old crew...not sure to be honest. Most are still scattered about the various forums here and there, bump into them every now and then heh.
Unless you have a fair bit of spare time, I'd avoid it. Did some inf movements attacking a town, took me ten minutes to run there....
Did you try asking for a ride? Did you check to see if there were any mobile spawns closer?
The game is a simulation so if you're after an action fix then you'd be best to look elsewhere.
I remember one instance where myself and Lapp crawled towards an enemy FB in order to spot the fall of shells from our tanks and artillery further back. It took us about 40 minutes real time to get to a position where we could provide feedback and we lasted all of about 1 minute before a frenchie capped us in the back.
On the other hand, battles around towns are often incredibly intense with multiple armour and infantry attacks from different directions, all while air support fights overhead. Plenty of AA and AT fire to keep people on their toes and when a Stuka finally slips through and lands a 500lb'der on the damn Matilda 2 that was guarding the armybase entrance...its pretty awesome. Manning the last remaning PaK38 in a town and trying to fend off an armoured column long enough for air support to arrive is a rather tense experience.
So if you are willing to be patient and learn how the game works then you'll be treated to some amazing battle pieces. Otherwise, stick to BF2 or CoD4 or whatever other spam shooter is the prefered one this month.
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I like it how it has a functional day/night cycle.
Used to love sneaking around in the dark placing satchel charges on tanks.:heheh:
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The old crew...not sure to be honest. Most are still scattered about the various forums here and there, bump into them every now and then heh.
I'm here! I still have my 0002 dogtags!
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:rnr:
How about loose-unit,tom,torn,legend,oh and hoover.lmfao:chuckle:
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For a bit of reminiscence I went down to the spare room and took these photos for you foxy. Not sure who you are Swampy maybe you were post RTCW days, so missed out on the early days and Wellington roadtrip. Unless that's an alias :rnr:
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yeah,joined up during the 42" era.
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Haha awesome stuff Temp!
I still have my old tags lying about here somewhere. Some good times had by all :)
Bozza is over in the UK now, as far as I know the others are still here though. Theo is still over in Hamilton, should be catching up with him at some point since I'm now in Tauranga. Will probably be up to Auckland at some point too, may have to have a drink for old times sake Temp :)
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Of course mate you always have an open door policy here :D Poor old Bozza/Hoover, what number did he get? I still remember trying to revive him on Beach when I didn't know you could run out of needles. Never been a game as good as that since.
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Did you try asking for a ride? Did you check to see if there were any mobile spawns closer?
The game is a simulation so if you're after an action fix then you'd be best to look elsewhere.
No one with vehicles were around, spawned at the closest mobile spawn, was playing with someone who played the "game" the most enjoyable thing about it was spotting from inside an occupied town while elemunk strafed the armour and other Nazi shit in his Spitfire.
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temp, thats a really strange thing you have your dogtags hanging from lol
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RTCW days,
RTCW was awesome back in the day. I was in !KZ clan !KZ tERRa...accent on the ERR) and there were some good buggers there. Used to have some awesome battles.
Sorry, just had to say that. Back on topic: sounds like an intense simulation.
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I played a bit the other day and it was intense.
As has been ponted out if you're after graphics then this is not for you, as they are AWFUL.
Gameplay however is very good - well once you've worked out what to do and how to use your kits etc.
Will play some more.
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It takes abit of time to work out what the hell your supposed to to do and where to go.You start as pfc and work your way up the ranks.As you proceed you get to use more and better tanks,weapons etc.Give it time and you will learn to love it.:sunnies:
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the thing that fucks me off about the graphics complaint is that no game is truely photo realistic yet.
and in any case when you're dogfighting in bge the graphics are the last thing on your mind.
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the thing that fucks me off about the graphics complaint is that no game is truely photo realistic yet.
and in any case when you're dogfighting in bge the graphics are the last thing on your mind.
Too true. The same applies when you're engaged in a duel with tank 2km away.
I'm glad you're enjoying it so far Xtinct, its not for the faint of heart but if you can get past the initial brick wall of 'wtf' then it offers up some amazing gameplay opportunities.
Of course mate you always have an open door policy here Poor old Bozza/Hoover, what number did he get? I still remember trying to revive him on Beach when I didn't know you could run out of needles. Never been a game as good as that since.
I remember that, funny as heck once we worked out what the hell was going on. I forget what number he had...3 maybe? I think Happy was #4 but beyond that I forget, we had a fair few members by that point.
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I still play, almost every day pretty much the only game I play anymore.
Just finished a 10hour gaming session.
I'll post some pics/movies of some of the action ive been involved in recently.'
Btw I play German Airforce these days.
So watch your 6 if you are in a spitfire :P
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Me leading a Night bomber raid (someone else took these pics)
There were about 10 of us on that one.
(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/180/sshot17nb5.png)
Flight forming on the Airfield
(http://www.fabionline.com.br/ZG76/SS/Zg76_005.jpg)
Same Flight heading out
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p281/marsvb/climb.jpg)
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Me escorting a bomber formation heading to england
(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6937/sshot56pp2.jpg)
The result of me engaging a hurricane
(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3024/sshot73og0.jpg)
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How much does this game cost a month?
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US $15
Heres some random ground based ones
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t98/505thtimmy41/SShot1848.jpg)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee5/shadfive/column.jpg)
(http://turppu.1g.fi/WWIIOnline/pz4newskin.jpg)
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/3457/sshot52gu2.jpg)
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BELL DONT MAKE ME FUCKING RESUB!
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Keen
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Just note, it is a complex simulation not an arcade game.
So that means
longer travel times: to get into the action, its not gonna be like bf2 where you grab a jet/tank and get to the action in 20seconds it gonna take 5-10min and if you charge in once you get thier you are gonna die.
That said if you play infantry and only use moblie spawn missions you can get to battle within a minute.
Guess what im saying is if you dont have patience and want instant action its not the game for you.
Step learning curve: you are gonna get dominated by people who have been playing for 6 years+
Make sure if you play it you ask for some help the player base is pretty good since its a sim you dont get 15 year old tards.
If you are playing axis (german) you can message me if im on just type .m Bell0 (insert message).
And check the forums for game guides and stuff.
Its one of the most challenging yet rewarding games you can play.
Because you have to really work for each kill you get it, gives you alot of satisfation when you get one.
There is also a lot of freedon, you have a insanely big gaming area and no restrictions on where you can go (only when you can spawn).
You can grab a bunch of any type of unit and go anywhere at any time.
If you wanna do a bomber raid, form a tank column, do a para drop, cruise the sea in some boats, set up a massive AA flak Battery, form a mortar squad, you can do it .
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Just note, it is a complex simulation not an arcade game.
So that means
longer travel times: to get into the action, its not gonna be like bf2 where you grab a jet/tank and get to the action in 20seconds it gonna take 5-10min and if you charge in once you get thier you are gonna die.
That said if you play infantry and only use moblie spawn missions you can get to battle within a minute.
Guess what im saying is if you dont have patience and want instant action its not the game for you.
Step learning curve: you are gonna get dominated by people who have been playing for 6 years+
Make sure if you play it you ask for some help the player base is pretty good since its a sim you dont get 15 year old tards.
If you are playing axis (german) you can message me if im on just type .m Bell0 (insert message).
And check the forums for game guides and stuff.
Its one of the most challenging yet rewarding games you can play.
Because you have to really work for each kill you get it, gives you alot of satisfation when you get one.
There is also a lot of freedon, you have a insanely big gaming area and no restrictions on where you can go (only when you can spawn).
You can grab a bunch of any type of unit and go anywhere at any time.
If you wanna do a bomber raid, form a tank column, do a para drop, cruise the sea in some boats, set up a massive AA flak Battery, form a mortar squad, you can do it .
Sounds exactly like Armed Assault. Takes alot of communication & organizing to take vehicles/Objects down..... So do you have to pay monthly for this? keeeeeeeeeeeeen
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How much does this game cost a month?
US $15
BELL DONT MAKE ME FUCKING RESUB!
So do you have to pay monthly for this? keeeeeeeeeeeeen
1/2Pulse:smash:
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Yea its comparable to armed assault I guess expect graphics aren't as good the infantry game is weaker but the vehicle combat is much better.
Also ww2ol has more players, some epic battles for important towns can draw like 300 players into the same area.
Here are some live recordings of a single battle made by one of the developers.
(there were other battles going on at the same time as this)
The blue tags displayed are only one team.
Part 1a
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Part 1b
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Part 2a
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Part 2b
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Part 2c
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Part 2d
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Its one of the most challenging yet rewarding games you can play.
Because you have to really work for each kill you get it, gives you alot of satisfation when you get one.
Damn straight.
My most satisfying kill would have to be downing a Hurricane with MG34 in the middle of the night while defending one of those towns in the northern islands (forget the name). The bugger had been strafing us back and forth for ages so it was nice to shut him up by ventilating the canopy as he swooped down for another run.
We had about 40 ground troops and limited air support but managed to fight off 3 British paradrops and a sustained naval bombardment; the Stukas were a beautiful sight after the Destroyers had been pounding us for over an hour.
I later spent an hour real time sitting in a PzIV on the back of a transport ship en route to reinforce the island with armour. Was crazy, air and naval escort, engaged enemy aircraft and gunboats through the narrow channels before finally landing the tanks and having them roll over on the beach! Gah!
Good times though. Those vids just make me want to login right now...can't get this damn desktop working soon enough :(
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1/2Pulse:smash:
I lack to know what the word ''Resub'' means and was just checking :D
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you can also download the game(a whopping 360 megs) and play offline to try the the different vehicles out etc without signing up.Just download the game then go to programfiles/CRS/Battleground europe/WW2.
im gunna resub at the end off the month when my cap restarts.:rnr:
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Your first cost after the 14 days is $19.99 US, then $14.99 US amonth.
So not too bad really - considering the game is free.
lol
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so whats the naval combat like??? You have me intrigued, this could just be the type of engrossing game to keep me away from wowcrack :P
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Naval combat is by far the least developed aspect of the game. At present there are gunboats, Destroyers and freighters. Thats it.
Plans have been in the pipeline to add plenty more to the mix but the reality is that the navies have a very small area in which they can operate effectively and the largest part of it (the French/Dutch coast etc) is cut out of the war relatively early on regardless of whos winning. The rest consists of the river networks and once you are restriced to operating there you're looking at gunboats only.
So it always gets the short end for updates being pushed back despite the fact they have been promised for a very very long time.
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What happens when you are killed?
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You respawn with the next wave of reinforcements.
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Very Tempted to download, do you have to have a joystick though?
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infantry,artillery,aa: No
Tanks,vehicles: No,but you may feel more comfortable with one.
Planes:probably alot easier with one.
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You drop back to the mission/brigade interface where you can either respawn immediately using the same unit type (providing there are numbers available) or a different type. Alternatively, you can change to a different mission or brigade and try something different.
Getting back in only takes a few seconds though.
As Swampy says, joystick isn't neccessary but for aircraft you will definitely want one. I'd recommend it for ground vehicles too although there are a couple of very good keyboard bind sets you can download now.
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Signing up, will give it a go.
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Yup will download and trial this weekend.
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So axis is the go?
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We should start an ICONZ company.
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axis all the way baby.:heheh:
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sif haxis...
the allied horde saftey-in-numbers mentality is the coolest....
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So I'm riding a tank to somewhere to do something.
Will fill you in when i get there.
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bet your on a firebase" search and destroy" mission.Oh the joy:madcrowd:
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I have no clue what im doing, killed a few guys, hitreg seems shit.
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So I'm riding a tank to somewhere to do something.
Will fill you in when i get there.
get in a plane dude
I have no clue what im doing, killed a few guys, hitreg seems shit.
it's actually better than bf cs etc because it doesnt rely on first packet, what you wan to do is make a shotm then wait a second or 3, the enemy will fall to the ground.
*edited because it was a bit strong, sorry slim :)
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get in a fucking plane...
it's actually better than bf cs etc because it doesnt rely on first packet, what you wan to do is make a shotm then wait a second or 3, the enemy will fall to the ground.
Will give it a go, the ranks thing is a bit of a bitch.
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I hate to say, but I don't really think this is my thing. I know we agreed the graphics were bad... but they are really, really bad. Its an excellent concept, bu the engine needs to be upgraded and the interface needs to be improved a little.
I am looking at getting into an MMO... but at this stage I think it might be Warhammer online.
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Can someone let me know how to change the controls from joystick to keyboard, I cant seem to map keys?
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press m to bring up the map.in the top right there will be a keymapper tab.click on the tab and your away. :)
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Nah not that easy, but I found some files that fix it all so im sweet now, It's a bloody hard game as inf, havent got a kill yet, but practise makes perfect :)
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What are the chances of us all jumping on together with someone who knows what theyre doing and having a bit of fun. We could all pile into a TS channel. How does Wednesday at 7.30PM sound?
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I'm gonna jump on in about 20 minutes, havent quite got the gameplay sussed yet but doing alright
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fuck you bell...
downloading now....will resub asap...anyone know if thbose debit plus cards work?
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Man, its a hard game to get used to, I'm dying alot after taking 20 mins to get where I'm going only to die without seeing what even killed me. Frustrating as hell, think I might start flying :D
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fuck you bell...
downloading now....will resub asap...anyone know if thbose debit plus cards work?
Mine did.
Sounds good to me slimshot.
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Woah, played a bit this morning, some giant raid on a town, parachuted in with shit loads of guys, was pretty amazing, didnt kill anything though :(
Seems you have to get rank 2 to really have a decent chance of killing anything.
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What you really want is Binoculars. I forget where ey are now, used to be about rank 4 or 5 I think.
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Woah, played a bit this morning, some giant raid on a town, parachuted in with shit loads of guys, was pretty amazing, didnt kill anything though :(
Seems you have to get rank 2 to really have a decent chance of killing anything.
Rank 3 to be any inf class apart from rifleman, and the rifle sucks for capping bunkers, if you miss your dead, and if you try and take your time to aim your dead, bit frustrating but we'll get there :D
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What you really want is Binoculars. I forget where ey are now, used to be about rank 4 or 5 I think.
Please stop making this game sound like alot of fun. You are peaking my curiosity
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Its fun until you die after an epic 15 minute walk, and its more frustrating when you dont know where you died from :(
But it really is awesome
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ill try to get resubbed by the weekend
sunday night BGE?
get yer joystick ready
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Is flying with mouse + keyboard possible?
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Is flying with mouse + keyboard possible?
not really as you rely upon the joystick to center the plane
so if you push the down arrow to pitch up you'll keep pitching up at the greatest angle of attack until you press the up button for the same amount of time.
it's the same for roll and yaw
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when i get my laptop over here i will download and resub and jump on
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seems the main hat on my X45 is fucked...joystick is in about 300 parts right now...and i don't have a soldering iron...
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I'm getting frustrated with this game, It's bloody hard to pick up as a new player, everyone seems to know where to sit when their camping and I try creeping through the bushes but the tank thats 2km away can somehow see me and kill me in 1 shot.
Ill give it a few more goes and if things dont start to get better, Stuff it
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I'm getting frustrated with this game, It's bloody hard to pick up as a new player, everyone seems to know where to sit when their camping and I try creeping through the bushes but the tank thats 2km away can somehow see me and kill me in 1 shot.
Ill give it a few more goes and if things dont start to get better, Stuff it
80% of people who i hear have played BGE end up this way.
tried flying? tried tanking?
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tankings just as bad as inf, and I cant fly cause I dont have a joystick.
In fact, tankings almost worse than inf cause when you die unexpectedly, its taken you 20 mins to drive instead of 10 mins to walk from msp.
Para drops are probably the best thing so far
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Its fun until you die after an epic 15 minute walk...
Try a 45 minute crawl :)
When you play BGE you have to learn to expect and accept that sort of thing. Getting past that barrier is probably the biggest problem new players have, as BH said.
Its not easy of course and I still get frustrated from time to time but you adjust to the style of play and keep at it.
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it's not a game you take fast, you cant say "oh ill just have a quick blat on the servers" you need to set aside at least 4 hours, with a 10 minute walk that'd give you 24 attempts at getting it right, if it takes you that many then I'd suggest a different game for you, like spider solitaire
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Yea i cant be bothered wasting so much time to achieve nothing really, I wouldnt mind if I could see where shit was coming from, but imo its a game youve either got sussed or you dont. I cant be bothered trying to get it sussed, its gonna waste too much time and piss me off to the days
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I enjoy it... But I'm not going to sub. I just don't have the time for gaming to play a game that it takes 10 minutes to do anything ever.
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I'm not suprised really, it's not the game for everyone.
shit even someone who loves the game takes breaks from it, even bell!
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resubbed
joystick is playing up...just lawn darted a spit Vb...
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Yea, its frustrating as fuck to learn to play but to be honest, because it was so god-damn hard I was more drawn towards it, I mean when I used to play battlefield after a week of playing hard you had the whole game sussed and were better than %90 of the players.
So naturally when I started playing BGE i was like yep ill be pwning within days.
Then i get owned over and over and over and over and over and im like wtf this makes no sense im surposed to be good at games.
So that put a desire in me to keep respawning and learning from my past deaths until I reached a point where I was better than the average player.
That took ALONG time and now that I'm there (and only in the flying department) it almost doesn't seem as fun and I wish I was a noob again.
But I still havn't mastered the game which is crazy after so long.
This game really shines when you get a group of guys together and decide to do something cool, because there are so many types of missions to go on and its up to you which equipment you want to use.
A group of 5 guys working together can have so much more impact on the game than a bunch of lone players.
And I disagree with the statement you need 4 hours of spare time to do anything worthwhile, well maybe you do when you are first starting.
But once you become an average player and know how to get into battle you just need a spare 10mins to do a quick sortie.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3G9Nzx0wgM
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BELL N-N-N-N-NECRO!
it is a wonderful game, unfortunately my joystick was too worn out when i went to play :(
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The whole game is a Necro back to when games were good :P
Someone needs to give them some millions to make a new engine.
I don't have my awesome joystick with me nor my rudder peddle thingers but ill be back in afew months.
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You must spread some Reputation around before Punching Bell in the throat.