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General => Technology & Hardware => Topic started by: Nyan on February 13, 2011, 09:22:39 pm
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I'm having a hard time deciding between the two. Both come in at $1400 give or take a few dollars.
The main uses will be reading ebooks, watching movies and listening to music, But also web browsing and texting. Some things point toward the Samsung such as the screen quality and the portability of the device. The iPad however has 64GB of storage, a 10 inch screen (lower ppi though) and has an entire app store for it.
I'm leaning towards the iPad even though I'm not really a fan of apple products.
What would your thoughts be?
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Whole new swag of tablets being released running Android Gingerbread and WebOS, and the new iPad isn't far off (a couple of months at the latest).
I'd wait. I hate saying wait as I am a firm believer in if you want something now, and it will work for you then go for it. But I think you should really wait because the market is going to open up big time.
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Galaxy Tab 2 is being announced in the next few hours however I still think Apple have done majority things right with the iPad.
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Okay, Im going to invercargill for a week over easter, hopefully they will be out then.
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eee PC, faster, more functionality, cheaper, less gimmicky
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I swear by my ipad now, I bought it overseas and was intending to flog it on tardme for a profit to some helpless iLemming.
COuldnt resist taking it out of the box and having a play, subsequently I have kept it and wouldnt be without it now.
I think they got the Form factor spot on - thats what concerns me with the galaxy.
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eee PC, faster, more functionality, cheaper, less gimmicky
This.
I dont know why people go so wild over tablets. They aren't very useful compared to similar eee pcs.
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http://www.playtech.co.nz/afawcs0139235/CATID=527/ID=15219/SID=803658267/productdetails.html
This looks good.
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The HP DM1Z is also a good netbook, about the same specs as that asus, but is currently only in the US. The nz store has the DM1, which is the older model.
I'm waiting for the DM1Z to come out here
http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/series/category/notebooks/dm1z_series/3/computer_store
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/17/hp-pavilion-dm1z-with-amd-fusion-review/
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This.
I dont know why people go so wild over tablets. They aren't very useful compared to similar eee pcs.
Really? So eee pcs are better for:
reading ebooks, watching movies and listening to music,
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This.
I dont know why people go so wild over tablets. They aren't very useful compared to similar eee pcs.
Isn't a eee pc just a netbook? That's completely different to a tablet.
I dont know why people go so wild over bicycles. They aren't very useful compared to similar cars.
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I saw this break down..... put it pretty simply for me.
iPad = consume content = fun
Netbook = make content = work
AB wants to consume, therefore iPad IMO.
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What the hell is a 'similar eee pc' anyway? One with no keyboard and a touchscreen?
You guys are as bad as the ones that slammed Apple for releasing a phone with no physical keyboard.
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I think you should get either a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 or an iPad.
I hope I have made your decision easier.
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iPad, due to the app store.
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The Galaxy Tab 2 is the same size as the ipad isn't it?
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Both are fairly useless, but it will take you longer to realise this with the iPad.
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Both are fairly useless, but it will take you longer to realise this with the iPad.
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Really? So eee pcs are better for:
Pretty much the same, if you find it that fucking difficult to press the down key when reading a book or use the mouse to click on the little music of movie icon then I guess an Ipad is a big advantage.
Otherwise it's just an expensive wanky toy you are buying not for its functionality but for its coolness factor and fashionableness.
So with that in mind I say buy and IPad since people will think it is cooler than that other thing they have never heard of, and really that's all that matters.
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Pretty much the same, if you find it that fucking difficult to press the down key when reading a book or use the mouse to click on the little music of movie icon then I guess an Ipad is a big advantage.
Otherwise it's just a wanky toy that you have overpayed for because it has a touch screen and everyone jerk off seems to think its cool to have one.
A mouse, if you need to plug a mouse in, then it's not portable in the same way a tablet is. You need a flat surface to use a mouse.
Tablets defiantly have valid uses, for situations were you have to use it walking around, I can think of many work related situations where a touchscreen is far superior to a mouse.
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I meant touchpad not mouse.
Noones really going to walk around watching a movie, reading a book, emailing or web browsing.
I agree there are some work situations where tablets are handy and that's traditionally been a tablets role.
But the ipad is definitely a consumer item marketed at people who like its cool factor who are going to use it in their home sitting down.
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A mouse, if you need to plug a mouse in, then it's not portable in the same way a tablet is. You need a flat surface to use a mouse.
Tablets defiantly have valid uses, for situations were you have to use it walking around, I can think of many work related situations where a touchscreen is far superior to a mouse.
Really? List them.
They make eeePCs now that have touch screens. And they are comparable in price to iPads. The battery life isn't as good, but then again that would be because it can do useful work with the battery. And it doesn't need itoons.
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Stock management or stock-taking in a large warehouse is a great use for a tablet.
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Stock management or stock-taking in a large warehouse is a great use for a tablet.
So not an iPad then, since the iPad doesn't have a USB host that you could attach a scanner to.
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I said tablets, not Ipads.
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Personally I'd go for one of those small tablets with an e-pen (or whatever they are called) makes it easier to select data than using your clumsy thumb.
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Rereading the original post, where the hell are you getting these insane prices? $1400 is overpriced for an iPad and Way Too Much for a Android tablet, even the galaxy.
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Really? List them.
Haha. My god you guys sound like dickheads.
Why buy a Ferrari? You can do so much more with an SUV. You can carry 7 people, go off road, take more luggage, and are safer.
The Ferrari can't do as much stuff. But, it does go around corners a lot faster, is more fun, and yes, cooler.
So I think you guys need to get over your bizarre 'netbook or you're a wanker' attitude and learn to understand that a lot of us enjoy taking the Ferrari out for a spin regularly - but have the Prado sitting in the garage for when we have work to do.
And just remember, this exact debate took place when Apple first produced a phone with no physical keyboard- now a standard feature of most major smartphones.
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Ferrari?
Funny how the dickheads appear when you show up.
I don't think your anomalyanalogy works very well. The ipad is more like a brakeless fixie bike in a world of cross bikes.
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Funny how the dickheads appear when you show up.
I don't think your anomaly works very well. The ipad is more like a brakeless fixie bike in a world of cross bikes.
My anomaly?
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQxaSkpyOGJioCIWKxg5hcYmny1orvHC9ADvg-IApucdASWoVXKlw)
Try sitting on a couch with an iPad and a netbook, watching movies and reading ebooks as the op stated he intended to do. Tell me what is faster, easier, and feels more natural. I doubt you have even used an iPad.
Then come back to this thread in 5 years and laugh at your silly comments and your extinct netbook.
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The Ferrari
Did you just compare a Ferrari to an Ipad?
My 1080p blueray SCII at full graphics laptop of doom is more like a ferrari as far as mobile devices go, an Ipad is like one of those new overpriced minis that gives you less features and worse performance than alot of decent mid-range cars at twice the price.
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Berg is a strange anomaly.
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Dude, replace Ferrari with any high priced sports coupe that you like, my 'anomaly' still works.
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Did you just compare a Ferrari to an Ipad?
My 1080p blueray SCII at full graphics laptop of doom is more like a ferrari as far as mobile devices go, an Ipad is like one of those new overpriced minis that gives you less features and worse performance than alot of decent mid-range cars at twice the price.
A full graphics laptop of doom is not really a mobile device.
Yes, you can pick it up, but you can't really do anything decent on it without sitting down, placing it on a table and plugging in a mouse.
Where with an iPad, you can check your email while on a roller coaster. If you needed to do such things.
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Watching a movie on an ipad compared to a netbook theres like no difference.
Reading an ebook, if you were really into ebooks then you would buy a kindle it dominates the ipad.
Anything that requires input such as emails and web surfing, netbook wins.
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Comparing a 'laptop of doom' to a ipad......
hmmmmmmm
How is web surfing or emailing on a netbook easier than a iPad? Last time i used a iPad, it was pretty fucking painless surfing the web.
Now maybe if you had both arms amputated and had hooks, the netbook could be easier to drag a mouse around with using a hook
for the OP, ipad, simpler, easier, more reliable, made for the exact purpose, app store.
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If I am on the couch then surely there is a television nearby I could watch this movie on
and a e-book would be much better read on something with an e-ink display. or a actual book!
and in 5 years time I would laugh at the people impulsive enough to buy a horrendously overpriced grainy and glaring LCD tablet. Assuming, of course, display technology doesn't stagnate and hyperinflation doesn't kick in.
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Yes, you can pick it up, but you can't really do anything decent on it without sitting down, placing it on a table and plugging in a mouse.
While we are getting alil sidetracked I will add.
I watch movies in bed, play BC2 and SCII on the couch infront of the tv, take it on planes to watch blueray movies.
I don't even own a computer desk, it's reasonably mobile and I bet I move it around just as much as %90 of ipad users.
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Ahhh spoonguard... you just proved you have no idea about the iPad.
Maybe when you know its actual specs and quality you should chime in again.
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How is web surfing or emailing on a netbook easier than a iPad? Last time i used a iPad, it was pretty fucking painless surfing the web.
I'll get to a website x5 faster than you on your touch screen keyboard.
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Watching a movie on an ipad compared to a netbook theres like no difference.
Reading an ebook, if you were really into ebooks then you would buy a kindle it dominates the ipad.
Anything that requires input such as emails and web surfing, netbook wins.
Good idea.
He should carry 2 devices.
If he wants to watch a movie he can use the netbook since it's 'no different' to the iPad.
When he wants to read a book, he puts the netbook back in his suitcase and pulls out his kindle, since it somehow 'dominates' the book reading area (unsure how).
Again, sitting on couch, iPad is easier for web surfing/emails.
You definitely havnt used one before.
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While we are getting alil sidetracked I will add.
I watch movies in bed, play BC2 and SCII on the couch infront of the tv, take it on planes to watch blueray movies.
I don't even own a computer desk, it's reasonably mobile and I bet I move it around just as much as %90 of ipad users.
You must have never used an iPad.
In all those situations your are sitting or lying down.
Try using your laptop standing up, I would imagine it would be very awkward.
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I have used one.
I have also used a kindle have you?
I also never said the netbook wasn't any good at e-books, the kindle is just a shitload better than anything else.
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If I am on the couch then surely there is a television nearby I could watch this movie on
and a e-book would be much better read on something with an e-ink display. or a actual book!
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Sitting in line at the doctors? Again, carrying books is a pain.
Just give up dude. This is one debate where we can say with 100% certaintty you are wrong. It's not even a matter of personal taste, it's just fact.
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Kindle son, give it a crack e-ink rocks.
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You must have never used an iPad.
In all those situations your are sitting or lying down.
Try using your laptop standing up, I would imagine it would be very awkward.
Do you walk around reading the newspaper or watching a movie?
Running into people and walls would be very awkward.
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How do you watch a movie on a kindle?
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Kindle son, give it a crack e-ink rocks.
How do you watch a movie on a kindle?
Do you walk around reading the newspaper or watching a movie?
Running into people and walls would be very awkward.
Standing up != walking
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You watch movies standing up?
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I don't, I don't have a tablet or iPad.
If I did have one, I could.
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when I browse (sans forums) i very rarely have to type...... bookmarks... WOW
COMPUTERS TABLETS CAN DO THAT??
Last I checked, iPad could bookmark sites..... but maybe with bookmarks being a high end user ability, maybe it cant...... certainly seems out of your league SG
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In conclusion.
If you want to read e-book: Buy a kindle
If you want to watch movies: Buy a big fucking tv
If you want to surf the web: buy a laptop.
If you want to read an e-book watch movies, surf the web on one device sitting down: buy a laptop
If you want to read an e-book watch movies, surf the web and send emails standing up: buy a tablet
I like to sit down, so i'll enjoy my extra money and you can enjoy standing up with your tablet.
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In conclusion.
If you want to read e-book: Buy a kindle
If you want to watch movies: Buy a big fucking tv
If you want to surf the web: buy a laptop.
If you want to read an e-book watch movies, surf the web on one device while sitting down: buy a laptop
If you want to read an e-book watch movies, surf the web and send emails while standing up: buy a tablet
Indeed. We are all in agreement then.
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I look forward to seeing you sitting down with your ipad.
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Correct, with the following mods-
If you want to do those things sitting down WITH A DESK- buy a laptop.
If you want to do those things sitting down- buy an iPad.
If you don't get much attention from the ladies and want a warm sensation in the groin while doing those things while sitting down, buy a laptop.
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Once again I reiterate, I have no desk and use a 17inch laptop, there are no groin sensations due to outward facing fans.
My house mates all use netbooks on the couch and those things put out like no heat and weigh nothing.
(http://www.gadgetlite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/asus-g73.png)
Although having a laptop that size on your lap is only recommended for people as manly as me.
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I take it on planes
I bet you take it other places you're not telling....
that's about all I have to offer to this thread.
I love physical books, the tactile pleasure and even the smell.
Enjoy your eyestrain, AB ;)
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How much did your 'laptop of doom' cost bell?
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Once again I reiterate, I have no desk and use a 17inch laptop, there are no groin sensations due to outward facing fans.
My house mates all use netbooks on the couch and those things put out like no heat and
I know, but as you can see from this thread, you are special.
I used to do that as well, in the old days.
I think this thread is done for now. We shall return in 5 years to see who is still using a laptop on the couch and thinks it's more comfortable than a tablet.
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$1500
I'm not saying buy a fucking huge laptop instead of an Ipad, I was just replying to arguments that laptops cant be used on the couch.
If I can do it with that fucking thing Im pretty sure a small child could do that with an eee-pc without getting uncomfortable.
In 5 years we will all still be typing input with tactile keyboards not touch screens and so I'll still be using a laptop of some form.
I'll prob have a collection of e-books on some form of e-ink reader tho.
Pop-quiz: who in this thread has replied with an ipad?
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I look forward to seeing you sitting down with your ipad.
Why?
A tablet allows you to do those things sitting down or standing up.
A laptop only allows you to do those things sitting down.
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what's that funny thing under the trackpad on that behemoth of a laptop?
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when I browse (sans forums) i very rarely have to type...... bookmarks... WOW COMPUTERS TABLETS CAN DO THAT??
Last I checked, iPad could bookmark sites..... but maybe with bookmarks being a high end user ability, maybe it cant...... certainly seems out of your league SG
I am guessing you don't have many bookmarks
did you post this from your iPad?
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Why?
A tablet allows you to do those things sitting down or standing up.
A laptop only allows you to do those things sitting down.
You won't be standing up though, I know lots of people with ipads not once have I seen one of them using it standing up ;)
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what's that funny thing under the trackpad on that behemoth of a laptop?
I think you are referring to the mouse-buttons?
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I dont own a iPad.... yet.... im very tempted, will all depend on if Nikon adds BT to their cameras and the support from there.
I own a mac book pro, imacs and custom built pcs. Still when im browsing, very little need for a keyboard, I can't see any clear major disadvantage that the iPad would have there.
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I think you are referring to the mouse-buttons?
Mouse buttons should be on the mouse....... ; )
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They are tactile feedback pressure sensors, pretty fancy stuff.
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I dont own a iPad.... yet.... im very tempted, will all depend on if Nikon adds BT to their cameras and the support from there.
I own a mac book pro, imacs and custom built pcs. Still when im browsing, very little need for a keyboard, I can't see any clear major disadvantage that the iPad would have there.
why would you want to connect a camera to a ipad? it already has a camera!
They are tactile feedback pressure sensors, pretty fancy stuff.
but are they useful for anything
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DSLR and tethered 'wireless' shooting.
would be very sexy with an iPad. (if the current support was expanded). Yes a eeepc or laptop could do it too if it was BT. but the ipad software already available is just pure bliss to use, and cheap!
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DSLR and tethered 'wireless' shooting.
would be very sexy with an iPad. (if the current support was expanded). Yes a eeepc or laptop could do it too if it was BT. but the ipad software already available is just pure bliss to use, and cheap!
software to do what, forgive my ignorance. And the ipad is hardly cheap compared to even a touchscreen netbook...
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software to do what, forgive my ignorance. And the ipad is hardly cheap compared to even a touchscreen netbook...
To look at photos I would guess.
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Software for complete tethered wireless DSLR shooting. Think of it as RDC to the DSLR, and being able to control every aspect of the camera. But until tehy put BT in the cameras its still a 'wish'.
As for cheap, I meant the software, $20, as opposed to $200-$5000 to run on a win/osx platform. (for a good piece of software)
(http://www.ononesoftware.com/_img/products/dslr-camera-remote/ipad-420.jpg)
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Can you get motorised tripods?
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I just took a huge dump in the toilet while browsing the net on my laptop.
Was not ideal.
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Both are fairly useless, but it will take you longer to realise this with the iPad.
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Feels like the thread should have ended with spoons comment.
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I have to add, you can use the eee pc's standing up. The 7" one easily, and the 10" one somewhat reasonable, if you have decent sized hands. That being said, its not as easy when sitting down. So i think bell summed it up well. If you want to stand up while you mobile compute, at the cost of processing power, and usability, get a tablet.
Also i must say the internet is really poorly set up still for touch screen browsing. So many sites, just aren't designed to browse them well, without a mouse/touchpad. I mean even this site, when I tried to visit it on my tablet, i found it terrible hard to use.
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Software for complete tethered wireless DSLR shooting. Think of it as RDC to the DSLR, and being able to control every aspect of the camera. But until tehy put BT in the cameras its still a 'wish'.
As for cheap, I meant the software, $20, as opposed to $200-$5000 to run on a win/osx platform. (for a good piece of software)
I have read about people putting ipads in cars as instrument clusters also as a alternative to hugely expensive specialist solutions. Seems like both applications could be better with a tablet/touchsceen that had a proper USB host and a sd-card slot.
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Touchpad.
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Touchpad.
Getting one?
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Getting one?
If I can source one w/ firesale prices, then yes.
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I just made an order for one on Acquire.
Stock ran dry in 30 seconds.
I got an order confirmation but they also say "we will confirm by email if you got lucky".
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Yeah I just did it as well.
Your order is currently being reviewed by our sales staff. We will contact you shortly if there are any issues regarding your order.
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I got the same. They have definitely sold out, hopefully I got in in time
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OT:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3892&idPhone2=3848
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I'm bored so i'm 'tiwaking' this.
In 5 years we will all still be typing input with tactile keyboards not touch screens and so I'll still be using a laptop of some form.
I'll prob have a collection of e-books on some form of e-ink reader tho.
It hasn't been 5 years but its been 2 so where are we at now, what type of devices GetSome peeps currently using?
I have exceeded Past-Bell's expectations by ending up a with a fuckload of laptops and pretty much soley relying on a kindle for books.
Here is my inventory:
Galaxy Note
Kindle
17.3 inch gaming laptop.
10inch travel laptop.
14inch linux laptop for work
13inch macbook with broken keyboard that I picked up for nothing for some apple dev.
No desktop, no TV, no tablet.
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I use my Nexus 4 + a desktop (for the past 2 weeks I have been away from my desktop and have been using my GF's laptop and my Nexus). I have a TV but it's for console and media sharing only, I don't have a TV reception, can't stand NZ broadcasting.
I'd love a phablet. I might replace my Nexus 4 with the Nexus 7 when they release a 4G/LTE version or pick up a Samsung Galaxy Mega when unlocked versions become available.
4.7" screen just isn't big enough considering I try to do a lot on it (read news, emails, videos etc.)
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Sold my tablet.
Just found that I always preferred to sit at my uncomfortable desk and use the PC.
Wasn't worth having a $700 piece of kit sitting there to be used a couple of times a week.