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Title: Employment contract representitive ninja kick
Post by: kilabee on February 04, 2013, 10:14:09 pm

Hi guys,

My wife is about to enter a new contract with a firm she has worked with over a number of years. Without going into to much detail they are kind of expecting it to just remain status quo which we don't see as a fair negotiation.These people have short arms and long pockets. Has anyone used a kickarse employee advocate that can sit in on contract negotiations and deliver a knock out blow where required.
Any help in this area would result in a chocolate fish delivered to your mailbox.

Thanks

Edit -Auckland area

Title: Employment contract representitive ninja kick
Post by: Pyromanik on February 04, 2013, 11:57:33 pm

Such people exist?

Title: Employment contract representitive ninja kick
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on February 05, 2013, 08:55:15 am

Join a union.

Title: Employment contract representitive ninja kick
Post by: Retardobot on February 05, 2013, 10:27:26 am

Quote from: Spacemonkey;1516930

Join a union.

HAHA - this guy.

I'm getting an extra $600 in a few weeks for just staying away from the unions.

Title: Employment contract representitive ninja kick
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on February 05, 2013, 10:42:20 am

Quote from: Retardobot;1516935

HAHA - this guy.

I'm getting an extra $600 in a few weeks for just staying away from the unions.

It's called a bribe.

Title: Employment contract representitive ninja kick
Post by: Apostrophe Spacemonkey on February 05, 2013, 10:45:26 am

But seriously, if it's a new employment contract, what is stopping her from negotiating more monies?

I'm a bit confused.

Title: Employment contract representitive ninja kick
Post by: Retardobot on February 05, 2013, 11:12:12 am

Quote from: Spacemonkey;1516937

It's called a bribe.

Workplace is upgrading it's individual employment contract to match what the union offers so we can all enjoy our workplace without the stupid, pissy bullshit that is inherent with unions.

Title: Employment contract representitive ninja kick
Post by: Xenolightning on February 05, 2013, 11:59:32 am

Some unions are great, but most are nut suckers that like to kick up shit.

Title: Employment contract representitive ninja kick
Post by: GhostOfGallipoli on February 05, 2013, 12:00:34 pm

Quote from: Retardobot;1516945

Workplace is upgrading it's individual employment contract to match what the union offers so we can all enjoy our workplace without the stupid, pissy bullshit that is inherent with unions.

so what you're saying is....you're getting a pay rise because of the unions

Title: Employment contract representitive ninja kick
Post by: mycoolcar on February 05, 2013, 12:00:59 pm

Without turning this into a debate, IMO NZ's society and employment laws have outgrown unions.

USA on the other hand are stuck in the dark ages.

Title: Employment contract representitive ninja kick
Post by: Retardobot on February 05, 2013, 12:10:53 pm

Quote from: GhostOfGallipoli;1516949

so what you're saying is....you're getting a pay rise because of the unions

I suppose that's one way of looking at it.

Title: Employment contract representitive ninja kick
Post by: kilabee on February 05, 2013, 01:25:02 pm

Quote from: Spacemonkey;1516939

But seriously, if it's a new employment contract, what is stopping her from negotiating more monies?

I'm a bit confused.

There is a lot of office politics going on with a couple of people sticking their oar in who have no business doing so.She wants to do a face to face with the owners and cut out the brown nose brigade. Problem is it can be a little intimidating sitting across a desk with the owners putting on the squeeze. There is also some internal office shit that needs to be discussed that could turn things to shit if not handled correctly.

Title: Employment contract representitive ninja kick
Post by: winfieldsaregoo on February 05, 2013, 03:43:46 pm

Quote from: kilabee;1516955

There is a lot of office politics going on with a couple of people sticking their oar in who have no business doing so.She wants to do a face to face with the owners and cut out the brown nose brigade. Problem is it can be a little intimidating sitting across a desk with the owners putting on the squeeze. There is also some internal office shit that needs to be discussed that could turn things to shit if not handled correctly.

just needs to state her case of why she needs a pay rise and if thay agree then all good if thay sa no suck it up or quit and find a higher paying job. Employers are just people not the devil.

Title: Employment contract representitive ninja kick
Post by: Munchie on February 05, 2013, 05:50:27 pm

I think what you need is like a Mediation person that specializes in Employee Contract negotiations. You could try here:

http://www.employmentrelations.co.nz/Our+Expertise/Helping+Employees.html