Topic: Scientists discover Earth-like planet

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Posted: December 17, 2009, 03:29:47 pm

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That's pretty cool - gutted about the temperature though

Reply #1 Posted: December 17, 2009, 03:43:28 pm

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Too far.

Reply #2 Posted: December 17, 2009, 03:44:45 pm

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if there are inhabitants. would they be called GJ 1214b-lings?

Reply #3 Posted: December 17, 2009, 04:01:27 pm
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i had kinda hope speakman had died, what a pity

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nice stroll distance
The only problem is indeed the tempture

Reply #4 Posted: December 17, 2009, 04:01:27 pm
Death by tray it shall be.

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The only problem is indeed the tempture


Waterplanet?
Between 280 and 120 degrees?

No problem for this guy


Reply #5 Posted: December 17, 2009, 04:33:02 pm

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It doesnt say anything about the water temp. I presume they are refering to the atmospheric temperature. So the water could be alot cooler(hopefully).
I believe their are organisms that live around volcanic 'smokers'. I forgot the proper term but yea. Those things are HOT. but life still goes on.

Reply #6 Posted: December 17, 2009, 04:44:55 pm

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"Its temperature is estimated at between 280 and 120 degrees Celsius with its host star about one-fifth the size of the Sun, according to the scientists."


It was probably once inhabited by people like us.

Unlike us they couldn't agree on a plan to halt global warming emissions.


We do have a plan don't we?

Reply #7 Posted: December 17, 2009, 05:02:53 pm

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yeah, the plan is mars isnt it?

Reply #8 Posted: December 17, 2009, 05:03:42 pm
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i had kinda hope speakman had died, what a pity

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We'll just gate off the planet to GJ 1214b renamed P3X-1214 and live there the rest of our.....oh :( no stargate .....k

Reply #9 Posted: December 17, 2009, 05:44:11 pm

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did god create that planet too? if so will those organisms be in heaven with us?

Reply #10 Posted: December 17, 2009, 05:51:30 pm

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Quote from: AfroDizzzy;1038434
It doesnt say anything about the water temp. I presume they are refering to the atmospheric temperature. So the water could be alot cooler(hopefully).
I believe their are organisms that live around volcanic 'smokers'. I forgot the proper term but yea. Those things are HOT. but life still goes on.

The boiling temp depends on the pressure, according to the article, so the water probably is indeed that temperature.

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Berta said some of the water would likely be in crystalline form that exists at pressures greater than 20,000 times Earth's sea-level atmosphere.

Not sure what they mean by 'crystalline', doesn't sound very liquid to me.

And you are right, we have organisms on Earth which live around volcanic 'smokers' where the temp is 100's of degrees, and also organisms which live in the deepest parts of the ocean where there is immense pressure.

Judging by examples on Earth, the temp and pressure doesn't seams to matter to life, only that the water is liquid, in that case, this super-Earth planet does seam hospitable, just not for humans.

Still not sure what they mean by 'crystalline', sounds solid to me.

Reply #11 Posted: December 17, 2009, 05:53:21 pm

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yeah, the plan is mars isnt it?

Yes, Mars is too cold, so we need to Global Warming it first before we can live there, Ironic in a way.

Reply #12 Posted: December 17, 2009, 05:54:15 pm

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We are likely to get more sightings of these as Kepler starts doing it's job over the next three years.   http://www.kepler.nasa.gov

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Not sure what they mean by 'crystalline', doesn't sound very liquid to me.

Still not sure what they mean by 'crystalline', sounds solid to me.

Ice is crystalline.
It is the solid form of water.

Reply #14 Posted: December 17, 2009, 05:55:14 pm
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So it's a 280 degree frozen planet?

Awesome.

But the frozen part would be in the middle, there maybe some part where the pressure is low enough for liquid water to exist.


Here's a fancy chart, as the pressure increases, the water can stay in it's liquid form at a higher temperature, it will also stay in it's solid form at a higher temperature.

Reply #15 Posted: December 17, 2009, 05:56:22 pm

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this one was found awhile ago

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18293978/

Reply #16 Posted: December 17, 2009, 06:19:33 pm
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I'm not going unless it looks like this.


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Reply #17 Posted: December 17, 2009, 06:38:18 pm

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Just cause you want fish for dinner Zarkov!

Reply #18 Posted: December 17, 2009, 07:15:50 pm
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"That will make it the first super Earth with a confirmed atmosphere -- even though that atmosphere probably won't be hospitable to life as we know it," said David Charbonneau who heads the research team.

I love this bit.

I've been reading about super-earths a fair bit recently, they're saying that some of the ones discovered so far might have 2x earths gravity, but in trials this is considered ok for humans to exist on (at least untill our off spring in a few generations grow abnormally large muscles then come back to earth and fly!)

these super earths might also be the reason we haven't heard or seen anything from the rest of the galaxy as the power required to exit the planet is exponential due to the energy source requirements and mass required to feed the engines.

shame the life wont be observed in our lifetime.

Reply #19 Posted: December 17, 2009, 07:45:47 pm
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shame the life wont be observed in our lifetime.


who knows, technological improvements are expotential (i cant spell that word)

Reply #20 Posted: December 17, 2009, 09:01:38 pm
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who knows, technological improvements are exponential (i cant spell that word)


You mean firefox doesn't spell for you?

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who knows, technological improvements are expotential (i cant spell that word)


Indeed, who knows.

However I think we'll more likely pick up a radio single due to luck, however technological improvement will help, being able to detect very faint signals.

Reply #22 Posted: December 17, 2009, 10:14:12 pm

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who knows, technological improvements are expotential (i cant spell that word)


exponential, yes I know.

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Indeed, who knows.

However I think we'll more likely pick up a radio single due to luck, however technological improvement will help, being able to detect very faint signals.


Probably one sent by something horrible that wants to eat us.

Reply #24 Posted: December 17, 2009, 10:22:08 pm