US Shooting

[Speakman]

ALL the guns

[mattnz]

Well I do so like reminding lias that he is a lunatic.

And yeah, the NRA has suggested putting the equivalent of 1/7th of the police force in schools during the day, hopefully reaching that happy medium (that definitely exists) where there are so many guns that no one wants to kill each other.

But yeah, just a violent society imo. How can the citizens be expected to stop killing each other when violence seems to be the primary conflict resolution strategy of the government?

[Tiwaking!]

Well I do so like reminding lias that he is a lunatic.

And yeah, the NRA has suggested putting the equivalent of 1/7th of the police force in schools during the day, hopefully reaching that happy medium (that definitely exists) where there are so many guns that no one wants to kill each other.

But yeah, just a violent society imo. How can the citizens be expected to stop killing each other when violence seems to be the primary conflict resolution strategy of the government?

Guvment? You cant trust no guv'ment!

[Bounty Hunter]

But yeah, just a violent society imo. How can the citizens be expected to stop killing each other when violence seems to be the primary conflict resolution strategy of the government?

I'd go with 90% of these shooters topping themselves (no stats, just a guess) either way some how I don't think they're too worried if they die....

[Craigor]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/8622792/Boy-5-kills-sister-with-his-gun

In southern Kentucky, where children get their first guns even before they start school, Stephanie Sparks paid little attention as her 5-year-old son played with the rifle he was given last year.[/FONT][/COLOR]
Then, as she briefly stepped outside while cleaning the kitchen, "she heard the gun go off," a coroner said.
In a horrific accident that shocked a rural area far from the US debate over gun control, the boy, Kristian, killed his 2-year-old sister, Caroline, with a single shot to the chest on Tuesday (Wednesday NZT).

The rifle was made by a company that sells guns specifically for children - "My first rifle" is the slogan - in colours ranging to hot pink and multi-colour swirls.

White said the shooting had been ruled accidental. A police spokesman said it was unclear whether any charges will be filed.

Accidental....

Accidental....

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[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

If they had better background checks in place for that 5 year old kid, this wouldn't of happened.

[deadmeatwalking]

If they had better background checks in place for that 5 year old kid, this wouldn't of happened.

i lol'd ... my son (5 yrs old) cant even be trusted with a pair of scissors as the temptation to cut something is too great as with many many other things ... mind moves way to fast to be able to make a clear judgement call  so WHY THE FUCK would you give your 5 year old kid a fucking rifle/gun  : senseless wonderment: .. only in america

[BerG]

"The whole town is heartbroken," Phelps said of Burkesville, a farming community of 1800 northeast of Nashville, Tenn. "This was a total shock. This was totally unexpected."

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

The 2 year old sister should have been given a gun as well, so she could defend herself.

When will these people learn!

[deadmeatwalking]

you look at the whole constitution and the way its worded and until its amended/removed they will never learn  

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

look at how many things people can read into this ... remove it completely and you might stand a chance of stopping shit like that from happening on such a large scale.  

[Bell]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/8622792/Boy-5-kills-sister-with-his-gun
Accidental....

Accidental....

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wtf they would be charged for sure in NZ, my old soccer coach didnt secure his shotgun and one of his sons friends got hold of it and killed his son.
He did a short term in jail after that I believe, you can't just leave a loaded gun in the corner of the room.

[Pyromanik]

And ammunition must be kept in a separate locked compartment than the one the firearm is kept in, etc. IIRC.

I don't see any issue with teaching children to shoot. Sure 5 is probably a bit young, and bright coloured guns are also stupid as they could be mistaked for toys. But teaching a child about firearm safety and control at a young age is not bad in itself. Leaving a loaded firearm in the hands of a five year old in the living room (not the range) and then leaving said room... very stupid.

Parents should definitely be locked up.
But, they're from the south. Probably thought God would protect the children.

Maybe the boy is just a serial killer in the making. Who knows.

[deadmeatwalking]

there is actually a town in texas where local legislation has made it that everyone over the age of 18 is legally bound to carry a loaded firearm on there person,
and yes irresponsible parents should be jailed if caught or persons injured/killed
i guess we live in a sheltered country where we have never really been exposed to firearms as much as the states .. maybe thats a good thing maybe its a bad one, personally i grew up around firearms, my father spent 26 years in the rnzaf and i was raised around a km from hobsonville firing range, seen a few accidents and a few friends parents discharged from the army for careless storage, kids playing with ammo ... got shot when i was 19 with a .22 in the forearm by a friend who was a lil irresponsible.

[Bell]

there is actually a town in texas where local legislation has made it that everyone over the age of 18 is legally bound to carry a loaded firearm on there person,

Yea but its sort of a symbolic law you can get an exemption from the law if "you don't believe in carrying firearms" so you only have to the follow the law if you want to follow the law
Still it's very weird and seems to be encouraging some sort of peer pressure to carry.

[BerG]

The 2 year old sister should have been given a gun as well, so she could defend herself.

When will these people learn!

The only thing that can stop a 5 year old with a gun, is another 5 year old with a gun.

[Pyromanik]

there is actually a town in texas where local legislation has made it that everyone over the age of 18 is legally bound to carry a loaded firearm on there person,
and yes irresponsible parents should be jailed if caught or persons injured/killed
i guess we live in a sheltered country where we have never really been exposed to firearms as much as the states .. maybe thats a good thing maybe its a bad one, personally i grew up around firearms, my father spent 26 years in the rnzaf and i was raised around a km from hobsonville firing range, seen a few accidents and a few friends parents discharged from the army for careless storage, kids playing with ammo ... got shot when i was 19 with a .22 in the forearm by a friend who was a lil irresponsible.

I remember being taught about firearm safety in school.
And I don't mean high school.

[deadmeatwalking]

I remember being taught about firearm safety in school.
And I don't mean high school.

yeah for sure its not a bad thing for kids to know about firearms as i guess these days they have so much exposure to them, but handing a 5 yr old a loaded firearm is just asking for trouble.

[Apostrophe Spacemonkey]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/8647572/Electronic-Arts-drops-gun-makers-not-guns/

The chief executive NRA said the video game industry was corrupt and violent.


Now EA is distancing themselves from gun manufactures, they're not going to bother licensing brand-name weapons and will just include them in game anyway.

[Craigor]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/8664979/Shoot-out-at-parade-in-US

And again...

[Retardobot]

Who cares about that story to be honest.

The real headliners are how Kate Upton broke into an A-list club and when Kate Middleton's baby is due.

The 2 stories that have been run as headline since the US shooting story broke.

[BerG]

We need to bring god back to mothers day parades.

[Craigor]

Who cares about that story to be honest.

The real headliners are how Kate Upton broke into an A-list club and when Kate Middleton's baby is due.

The 2 stories that have been run as headline since the US shooting story broke.

Or Aaron Gilmore, because everyone cares about a low backbench MP.. Sick of seeing him tbh.

[Bounty Hunter]

Or Aaron Gilmore, because everyone cares about a low backbench MP.. Sick of seeing him tbh.

I've got passed that point with Gilmore, all I want to hear is the next stupid thing he's spouted.

[private_hell]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/8664979/Shoot-out-at-parade-in-US

And again...

all the good guys with guns must have been else where...

[Bell]

Well obviously there aren't enough guns in America and they need more then.
I know I always feel really safe when I see m16s carried by 19 year old civilians when I visit the West Bank.