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Sports / Fitness / The Official Formula 1 thread
« on: July 21, 2008, 07:56:25 pm »
Quote from: Templar;760017
It was definitely a very weak fight Massa put up, Schumy must of been watching that and felt disgusted. Shumy probably woulda taken them both out to keep them on 48 points.


Lol QFT.

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Sports / Fitness / The Official Formula 1 thread
« on: July 21, 2008, 01:58:16 am »
Rofl. Massa is such a fraud. He's fast on a clear track. As soon as there's actual racing to be done, he panics and goes into fail-overdrive. What a joke. He didn't even deserve 3rd. Good on Piquet though, time will tell if he's going to be a lucky wannabe or not, but good on him for doing something right this season finally - and great job making Alonso look like a fiery ball of all-or-nothing. Lewis didn't do too bad either, coming from 1st, to 4th after that last pitstop, then back to 1st again - by passing on the track.

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Sports / Fitness / The Official Formula 1 thread
« on: July 06, 2008, 09:10:49 pm »
Enjoy Silverstone while you can. After next year, the British GP is off to Donnington.

http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=43211

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Sports / Fitness / The Official Formula 1 thread
« on: June 09, 2008, 05:05:02 pm »
Quote from: TofuEater;731983
At least i'm able to spot some talent,...Kubrica...Maclaren.... :rnr:


Pity you're not able to spot spelling lol - Kubica, McLaren.

Just winding you up.


Great race, - I'm sure we can dispense with the spoilers now - any F1 fan that hasn't seen it yet and didn't want the race spoiled for them would be stupid to come check out the F1 thread. I'm happy for Kubica, he's always looked like a future star, glad he got his win finally - and is leading the championship! I'd be surprised if this years BMW can be strong enough to let him take the title, but good luck to him anyway. Lewis had a major facepalm moment, although I'm sure Sutil and Force India wet themselves laughing at Kimis slightly ironic misfortune. I agree that while Massa generally = fail unless  he gets a good start from pole, but I also agree that he didn't do a bad job to end up 5th, and the 2 for 1 pass on Kovy/Bar was quite inspired, if not fortunate.

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Sports / Fitness / The Official Formula 1 thread
« on: March 24, 2008, 08:27:05 pm »
Quote from: TofuEater;681318
C'mon dood, you know he's not going to finish fuck all races this season. As long as someone's putting the pressure on (which no-one managed to Raikonnen yesterday) they're both an accident waiting to happen. :heheh:


C'mon dude, you know you shouldn't put Massa in the same league as Raikkonen. Massa is an A grade screw-up. Raikkonen can drive the nuts off a car (literally, as his time with McLarens fragile cars showed). It's a little disappointing that he seems to need a bit of an adjustment period without traction control, but in no way does that detract from his undeniable skills as a driver.

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Sports / Fitness / The Official Formula 1 thread
« on: March 24, 2008, 07:45:04 pm »
Look guys. You seem to be trying to imply that there was a problem on my end. This is impossible. It is broadcast to me in stereo at best. I do not have separate streams available to "accidentally" leave on/off. I cannot separate the commentary stream/channel from the trackside audio stream/channel. That can only be done BEFORE they are mushed together for broadcast. I have undenyable proof that for 31 laps, the only audio was from the commentary box - and this included the sound of the cars that penetrated the commentary box window and was picked up by the commentary mics.

I submit to you in all seriousness that if you were watching the live broadcast on NZ sky digital and DIDN'T notice any problem, that you either REALLY don't pay attention to what you watch, or you're too stupid to realize when the sound you are hearing has nothing to do with the sound you are watching. Did it not occur to you that all the onboard video had absolutely no onboard sound at all? That as the cars went by the trackside cameras, there was no "zzzZZZZOOOOOoooommm" - unless there was a faded sounding zoom from a car that happened to be passing the commentary box at the same time.

I know exactly what I'm talking about - I do a LOT of video / audio stuff, including some TV work - and I find it amusing, if not disheartening, that many of you think there was no problem. I think I'll upload the proof, highlighting the problems, to youtube and call it "More major ITV screwups - ICONZ members too dopey to notice?".

Come on guys. You should know by now that I never say something unless I'm 100% sure of it. Arguing with me on this one is pointless.

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Sports / Fitness / The Official Formula 1 thread
« on: March 24, 2008, 01:35:23 pm »
Yep, as Brundle wonderfully put it: It was either brain-fade or being too near his limits - it definitely seemed to be a case of ambition outweighing adhesion. He booted it too early without traction control to babysit him.

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Sports / Fitness / The Official Formula 1 thread
« on: March 24, 2008, 02:12:57 am »
Quote from: Baffled;680930
You know we dont get the full coverage here in NZ eh? (would be nice to have the back catalogue of races though.

The proper ITV coverage has alot more pre race stuff and more stuff after as well...

Hopefully we get better coverage when BBC takes over... thats why i said it should be good...

Yep, I know they have their own pre/post race stuff, that's why I said I have each RACE in their entirety, not each ITV broadcast. The race is what counts, start to finish with no missing bits (except of course for the four 15 second ad breaks). I think all this mixing their own stuff, then sending a different start and finish broadcast to everyone else is where all the problems start.

Shit, I forgot another real annoying screw-up they do alot - the one where they have someone being interviewed after the race, then they switch to the press conference with the 3 podium winners - but still have the audio from the person being interviewed playing OVER TOP of the press conference. Hell, they even did it in the Melbourne GP last week. Absolute morons.

And yeah, I agree that BBC having it again could be good, hopefully there are some poms that know what they're doing in the tech dept. I hope they manage to get Martin Brundle too, and I guess James Allen if they can't find anyone better. Being an ex driver, Martin knows his stuff, and is a great commentator.

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Sports / Fitness / The Official Formula 1 thread
« on: March 24, 2008, 01:40:22 am »
Quote from: TofuEater;680864
It must be you dood - my coverage was fine. In fact, when Coulthard's radio didn't come through the commentators even repeated it for us. Get Sky rather than that dodgy russian internet link that you're tuned in on. :rasb:

Not only do I have sky digital, I have it hooked up to my PC as well. I have the whole sloppy mess recorded to HDD. In fact, I have every race for the last few years, in their entirety. They DEFINITELY fucked it up. Sometimes you could hear cars going around, and more often as the field spread out, but until lap 31, when we were onboard with Jarno Trulli I can assure you that there was no correct audio feed from the trackside cameras, car cameras, or pit radio. That was the EXACT moment that those dickheads in the ITV tech dept finally worked out their fuck-up and resolved it. Lap fucking 31. I can even upload that bit so you can see what I mean if need be.

They have different feeds for different countries, so the European coverage was probably fine. I don't know WHY they have different feeds / channels for different countries, except perhaps for sorting out different ad breaks.

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Sports / Fitness / The Official Formula 1 thread
« on: March 23, 2008, 09:54:58 pm »
Well, another typically shit bit of coverage from ITV / Sky. It ALWAYS seems to be either:

stretched screen, as if widescreen has been stretched to fullscreen,

car/track sounds, but no commentary (like the first half of quali this week,

commentary but no car/track sounds (like the first half of the whole damn race this week - cars could be heard faintly through the commentary speakers, and were louder as they went past the commentary box)

no sound when someone (Ted/Louise) interviews someone, or pit radio, all we hear is the commentators agreeing / whatever with silence.

Yes, these usually get resolved - but it's taking them longer and longer to sort it out. The worst I have seen is 12 laps with no commentary, but now we have a new record with half the fucking race with no car sounds (except for whatever trickled through the commentary window and down the microphones. Half a race to sort it.

This sort of shit TV coverage is pathetic. I'm assuming it's not Sky's fault, and they just broadcast the signal that ITV give them. I just wish those stupid poms would get their crap together and do something right for once. Even the inbred NASCAR goons can muster up a decent broadcast.

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Sports / Fitness / The Official Formula 1 thread
« on: March 23, 2008, 07:14:21 pm »
Quote from: Baffled;680754
Less bitching, more interesting f1 talk thanks.
Funnily enough, I HAVE been talking about F1 - even trying to explain why Ferrari weren't penalized for running their "illegal" car in melb last year. It seems the conversation dried up when I showed xtinct why he was so wrong and should shut up when he doesn't know what he's talking about, as he suddenly wants to pretend the discussion never happened, call us all trolls, and he wants to change the subject from F1 to...F1.

Xtinct - it's not trolling when people tell you you're wrong, you disagree, and they prove it to you. Stop saying such stupid things, or at least try to research things and know what you're talking about before you comment on them.

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Sports / Fitness / The Official Formula 1 thread
« on: March 23, 2008, 06:15:26 pm »
*Sigh. I had a feeling you'd need it explained to you again. Ok, let's do this.

Quote from: Xt1ncT;680712
Well considering this thread is about F1 I'm pretty sure people knew exactly what I was talking about. And I didn't say
'Fuck the FIA"  said Fuck I hate the FIA - how about you go and learn to read, and also get yourslfe a dictionary, so again you won't make yourself look as stupid as your chum.


Yes, this thread is about F1. However, unless someone had heard that McLaren had given a penalty, or even had any idea of how qualifying went yesterday, they wouldn't have had a clue what the hell you were on about.

Quote from: Xt1ncT;680712
Shows how much you know about law

Definition of murder = The unlawful killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.

So if you were accused of killing someone and said no I murdered him you'd still be convicted due to the definition of muder being to kill.


As you're so fond of telling people to learn to read, how about you take some of your own advice: I said "It's like IF the law only said I could not kill you". I was making an "imaginary example" of how wording of rules / laws can create loopholes that can be exploited. I am not a lawyer, and do not claim to be. Did you really think I had come up (or tried to) with a real example of how to actually get away with murder in a real court of law? Are you that stupid?

Quote from: Xt1ncT;680712
Now, at least you argued a point, albeit wrong. But at least you argued. They broke the law, and instead of doing what they would do for any other team they decided to change it. Again we know exactly why - without Ferrari there would be no F1 and Ecclestone and all his cronies would have no income anymore.


No, see you're wrong again. I was not wrong. You were. And Ferrari did NOT "break the law" (by the way: in racing, they're called "rules", not "law") - they found and exploited a loophole - PERFECTLY LEGALLY. The FIA did not want teams using floors like that however, and changed the WORDING of the particular rule to close the loophole and NO LONGER allow floors like that.

Using a loophole is NOT illegal - that's why it's called a loophole.

Try to keep up.

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Sports / Fitness / The Official Formula 1 thread
« on: March 23, 2008, 04:55:35 pm »
Quote from: Xt1ncT;680582
It makes you look like an idiot.

No, uninformed and unintelligent posts like yours -especially in the party pills thread - makes you look like an idiot.

Quote from: Xt1ncT;680582
If you read my post in full you will see that my opinion - whether you agree or not is irrelevant - is that McLaren were not the only team going slowly when they had finished their flying lap. That being the case why were they the only team to get penalised? Only one reason TBH and that is that the FIA want them as far behind Ferrari as possible. Same as last year with the BS penalties they got, whereas Ferrari had no sanction for having - wait for it - A COMPLETELY ILLEGAL CAR at the beginning of the year.

Firstly, your "full post" didn't even say what you were talking about, but instead you gave your post the title of "fuck the FIA", and just assumed that people knew you were on about the grid penalty given to McLaren in the Malaysian GP 2008.

Secondly, The car was not illegal. I am not a Ferrari fan, so I am not trying to defend "my" team. Ferrari built their floor in a way that was not intended by the FIA - so the FIA "clarified" (changed) the rules to ensure that teams understood you weren't supposed to have your floor like that. Basically, Ferrari found a loophole, and the FIA closed it. It WAS NOT against the rules as they stood in Melbourne, and then the FIA changed the wording of the rules to close the loophole.

It's like if the law only said I could not kill you, so I chopped off your head and said "I didn't kill him, I murdered him" - technically I could not be done for killing you. Then the law wording would need to be changed to something like "you cannot cause someones death on purpose" - and that would close the loophole. I would still be free though, because I didn't break the law as it was written when I murdered you. Why do you think lawyers even exist?

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Sports / Fitness / The Official Formula 1 thread
« on: March 21, 2008, 04:28:17 pm »
Quote from: Baffled;679854
Sweet, hopefully i get to see it then.


Oh and did you guys read this?

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/3/7516.html


The BBC has won back F1 rights from ITV and will be hosting it from 2009, should be good :)


Hopefully someone other than sky buys the rights here in NZ - seeing as we get the current ITV coverage now, I'm guessing that we buy it from them, rather than going straight through Bernie Ecclstone, and a new contract etc would need to be made with new rights holders BBC, which might open it back up to TVNZ or TV3 having a go at getting it.

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Sports / Fitness / The Official Formula 1 thread
« on: March 21, 2008, 02:16:50 pm »
Quote from: TofuEater;679735
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Really? Massa has no line, he has no position and he has no rights. If you have a look, he's off the track on the inside as Coulthard does a standard manoevre on the corner.


Not from the way i see it on this replay. Like you, i'd only seen the side on camera view up til now, but it seems clear to me that Coulthard has all the rights.

In fact, if you freeze the video at 0:16, you'll see that Massa's wheel is only in line with Coulthard's, even though he's begun his turn in at the corner. Like i said before, i think what pissed DC off so much is that he wanted to take Massa out, which was the most logical end to a crap move by him (Massa).


Totally agree. Massa's a crap racer, and this is just another incident that shows it.

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Sports / Fitness / The Official Formula 1 thread
« on: March 17, 2008, 04:19:50 pm »
Massa is, and always will be, shit. He makes HEAPS of mistakes - I will NEVER understand how he got a Ferrari drive after his performance in the little backmarker team he was in - always running into people and walls. He ONLY wins when he has the fastest car AND starts from pole. He's a "qualifying driver" - fast if he's the only person on the track, or at least if no-one is near him. He CAN'T race and overtake to save his life. Coulthard will back be up on this....

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Sports / Fitness / The Official Formula 1 thread
« on: March 17, 2008, 12:39:51 am »
Quote from: Baffled;677539
what was the reason for massa's retirement?

Stupidity and lack of basic driving skills. And a busted engine.

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Sports / Fitness / The Official Formula 1 thread
« on: December 21, 2007, 12:14:46 pm »
McLaren and their 2008 car have been cleared to race in 2008 by the way.

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=41471

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